Sskyhigh,
Swan has provided some great links. Also please see CarsonZi’s recommendation on starting Deep Meditation and Spinal Breathing Pranayama, if you haven’t already:
I am glad that you are finding some relief in physical activity and antioxidants. My intuition tells me that when it comes to side-effects of prematurely awakened Kundalini energy, the only way to properly correct for it is go back into the meditation the right way. I see this, perhaps naively, as an athlete who injures himself and then does physical therapy to heal the injury
May I ask, were you doing a certain meditation when your crown opened, or was it more of an unprovoked, spontaneous nature?
Much love and blessings,
Marcel
Hi Marcel and Swan,
Thanks for welcoming me to the forum and for your suggestions.
I actually did do DM and spinal breathing for about a month last year immediately preceding the onset of my current problems. Prior to that I had been doing either breath meditation or I would just focus my attention on any constant sound near me. I initially stumbled upon meditation after I discovered this sound technology called Xphirience in September (I guess it would be similar to something like Holosync).
The time my crown opened in December actually wasn’t the first time it happened. It happened spontaneously in August of last year when I was driving home one day from work and I started having sort of a panic attack/heart attack and these bad mental symptoms - after about an hour of this my head felt like it kind of exploded and then I felt what I can only describe as love raining down on me for quite a while. It was pretty incredible. After that I learned how to open it on my own (although at the time I had no idea what I was doing as I was totally unaware of chakras, meditation methods, etc) and then about two weeks later I started doing the meditations I mentioned above - finally starting AYP in about late November before ending it in December after I must have totally overloaded my system. I never exceeded 20 minutes of DM or 10 minutes of spinal breathing but back when I was using those other methods I would sometimes go for an hour or more - I had a bunch of energy/kundalini symptoms but I never really took this as a sign of overload as I probably should of.
Unfortunately I think my body is too weak to do any more meditation for a while, I think tons of grounding and nutritional rebuilding (I read the website Biology of Kundalini a lot for nutritional tips) is what I need right now. I’ve found the antioxidants grape seed extract and dandelion root to be particularly helpful. I also take zinc, b6, magnesium oil, amino acids, chlorophyll/wheatgrass/chlorella, some Health Force products, bee pollen, and some digestive enzymes <<– my digestion was majorly screwed up for a long time. W/ all these things I can basically function but I haven’t figured out how to restore my body to a point where it can operate on its own.
All the best!
Sskyhigh
Wow. Intense. Sounds like your system is very similar to mine - super sensitive to spiritual practices. I guess a lot of us are
I would trust your intuition and stick with plenty of grounding activities. Your body/mind/psyche will know whatever helps. Just go with what feels right.
I am amazed, in my case, how sensitive I am. If I ignore warning signs, there is often a heavy price to pay. Some say that those who are overly-sensitive may have overdone practices in previous lifetimes, let alone this one
I have also heard that no spiritual practice is wasted. Even is something is overdone, we may just have to wait for the pendulum to re-balance, as Tunist mentions above. In the meantime follow your inner senses.
Well Sskyhigh, I am glad to have the chance to speak with you about these matters. Besides my parents there is no one I have met in person in this lifetime who could begin to relate. I am very thankful for this forum!
Much love and blessings,
Marcel
Sskyhigh, it is great that you know your own pace, and thanks for sharing your grounding technique. I would like to add that when you feel ready for starting practices, consider giving more attention to the lower chakras, with techniques such as solar centering (and it has improved digestion in my case).
Wish you the best …
Thanks Marcel and Swan, it’s been great talking with both of you.
One concern I have - after reading Axel’s posts above about damaged/broken energy channels, I’m worried that maybe this has happened to me. How would one find out about this and is there a way to fix it or does it just heal on its own with grounding, etc…?
Sskyhigh, glad to talk to you
The AYP approach does not enourage concentrating on particular energy channel or chakras. When the energy or prana starts moving in a proper way due to practices, they energy channels will take care of themselves. this concept is called ‘under the hood’. you can read about it in the below link… http://www.aypsite.org/47.html
love …
Sskyhigh,
I feel for you. Perhaps I did a little too much concentration yesterday (reading, driving) and am getting pain again at the top of my head.
So today I am doing a lot of grounding activities (long walks, sitting in the park).
My inner voice tells me that this “injury” can only be healed through meditation at the right pace. This is a lifelong journey, perhaps over many lifetimes as some say.
I did some DM this morning using the mantra in the link Swan provided above, for overly-sensitive Meditators.
Maybe when you feel ready again you can try this one. In the meantime I am relying on faith and trust in this miraculous power that all will work out for the better, in time.
Much love,
Marcel
Marcel you do not make me pain by wires and crown stimulating but the memory of it is still stored in different places,presumably subconsciously for you. Can you grab under your shoulder blades? Do you get a painful point there? Rub it softly. You may help by the other hand.
It is a natural process in opening the third eye that the crown is involved also. Later mantra additions open upwards what your wires deviated and hindered.
In the string of Kunlun meditation Hakuins water egg on the head.You may consider softening your pain by it. A more direct way is treating and dissolving such pain directly by seeing it as ice transformed into water. “Ice (pain or wathever) to water” as first part of this Chinese mantra. How it works for you?
You are not hindered by your drug explosions working normal pathes in and at your body as they contain also good results in stillness.
Remarking the own body is important also for later flights in the cosmos.
Axel
Axel,
Thanks again for your advice.
No I do not get pain under my shoulder blades and yes rubbing gently there does seem to relieve the pain in my crown.
I do have some trouble visualizing the Chinese Kunlun meditation of seeing ice transform into water over my head. Perhaps I misunderstand, should I literally try placing an ice cube at the top of the crown?
In the meantime I am finding good results with the advanced mantra
SHREE OM SHREE OM AYAM AYAM NAMAH NAMAH
as described by Yogani. I do this DM for 20 min in the morning and am finding deep silence and stillness within coupled with pure bliss consciousness without. There is also plenty of kundalini energy to ground by going for long walks, sitting in nature, and eating a heavier diet.
Dear Marcel,
I know we are all different with a different landscape of experiences and karma but reading through this thread, it sounds that you are still struggling to find stability in your practices. As you say you are probably the over-sensitive type. It is thus that I feel I should advice you that the long mantra you are using is a very powerful one and one likely to bring you into overload down the line (I would say very soon down the line). Yogani recommends the simple AYAM mantra to be used for a long time (sometimes years)before adding enhancements. Recently, after over 5 years of practice, I moved to this enhancement (3rd one, is it?)and it practically blew me away. I went into serious overload, had to scale back to 5 mins DM with no SB and climb back slowly from there. Months later, I am now back to 10 mins SB + 20 mins DM, but I keep a close eye on it. And I do not consider myself sensitive!! - Just thought I’d share.
Blessings
Sey
Dear Sey
This long mantra is suggested for over-sensitive guys for slowing down, but you bring up a higly valid question! this is the third mantra enhancement which is designed to take the practice to fifth gear (lesson 369) while the same is suggested to over-sensitive meditators for slowing down (lesson 367).
I tried to find some answer and found this in the lesson #404:
Thought I would mention here that I am oversensitive, and I found relief with breath meditation, and came back to I AM later, and have not tried the long mantra (probably due to this confusion in the back of the mind ).
Wondering how the same mantra helps slow-down sensitive people, and speeds up nomal practitioners. If somebody would like to throw some light on this, it will be great
Love …
[quote]Originally posted by Marcel
Axel,
No I do not get pain under my shoulder blades and yes rubbing gently there does seem to relieve the pain in my crown.
<< that I hoped for you as the real brain is the heart not to be forgotten in simple crown opening into the cosmos. So kundalini may also go down from the head in the heart region.
the points you rubbed got stimulated as acupoints and when I do it mentally indeed the crown and third eyes gets relaxed energy going down to the heart center. The points opposite the ones on the back you rubbed you can test also this way if you wish. Frontside is female backside male balancing and connecting at least both if not more happens.
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I do have some trouble visualizing the Chinese Kunlun meditation of seeing ice transform into water over my head. Perhaps I misunderstand, should I literally try placing an ice cube at the top of the crown?
I do not know the meaning and content of kunlun egg but get scenery. It may not fit together but is the third stage of it as the string worked out.
My intention is implementing safeguards for your desire towards the cosmos. So you can observe from the heart or even deeper in a sort of grounding the experience you will make.
A further safeguard is intended by softening water on the head against
hardening and perhaps new hard wires
By ice to water you can dissolve them and remedy also painful overload
and to much ekstasy and agitation.
The full water method and meditation is described by lineageholder B. K. Frantzis in opening the energy gates and cd and mp3 with hints to the mantra. Relaxing your skull and removing the stress you experienced would be fine.
The exercise is not really a visualisation consuming to much head energy. Like the third eye you need not to see anything but feeling is sufficient and sign of opening.
The whole body is lastly doing this “visualization” with more power in a more and more relaxed way. Fine that your rubbing did not show pain of obstructed shoulderblades and other parts. So I come also to the defect wires seen beneath. Perhaps not sucessful drilling inner channels.
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In the meantime I am finding good results with the advanced mantra
SHREE OM SHREE OM AYAM AYAM NAMAH NAMAH
as described by Yogani. I do this DM for 20 min in the morning and am finding deep silence and stillness within coupled with pure bliss consciousness without. There is also plenty of kundalini energy to ground by going for long walks, sitting in nature, and eating a heavier diet.
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Excellent. This covers the points described above. Shree obviously the same as tibetan hri or shri let the crown open in a sprinkling fashion over the head.This is similar to the sprinkling of the main yang center in the bai hui I mentioned already. But his many, many lines are feelable in the whole body as a tingling or other remarkable signs of its activity. But shreesprinkles separate from the body into the air obviously preparing leaving the body withaout fearing opening to soon the crown chakra.
Namah is a third safeguard by grounding in the abdomen the processes in the head.
Axel
Thank you Sey and Swan
Yes it appears to be contradictory, using the longer mantra gradually for meditators with normal sensitivity, but right away for those with over-sensitivity. It might have something to do with how “obstructions” are packed in the nervous system. Here is what Yogani says in lesson #367http://www.aypsite.org/367.html
Sey! happy for you to hear that
Marcel, thanks for bringing this up. I seem to understand this better this time. One confusion still remains, it slows down and falls behind (analogically) I AM in loosely packed obstructions, but speeds up and outruns I AM within densely packed obstruction.
but I am no expert on this subject, and I think I will just drop the question for now.
Love …
Om AH Hung (S)hri Om mani peme hung
is the tibetan Padmasambhava mantra touching with om the head with ah the throat chakra opening the body channels and your energyfield to the outside resonate with the heart and hung in the heart.
hri or shri as a meditation leader pronounced returns to above the head. This head of a healer house of Dalai Lama expressly demonstrated and said this sprinkling action over the head.
Many helmets and hair dress especially higher ranking persons Show this sprinkling by the own or adjoined hairs and feathers.
Already Aum has the m representing the body and matter, the more namah.
Axel
Hi Marcel and welcome
I just wanted to let you know that I’ve been trough experiences with methamphetamine, as this is very popular in my country, and that I can relate to many of the mystic/psychotic experiences you describe. So just that.
Thinking of you and wishing you success in transforming everything into enjoyable and controlled spiritual progress!
Thank you both so much Karan & Mimirom
The website is great, exactly what I have been looking for
And yes, I am working on controlled spiritual progress and it seems to be going very well so with AYP.
Much love,
Marcel
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