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My opinion about the above subject is that the knowledge of Hindu Vedas is imperfect. Guatam Buddha new the imperfections in vedas. He wanted to move beyond Vedas. But he had a serious problem. The problem was that vedas are near perfect and to go beyond required an immense effort. It required SPIRITUAL INSIGHTS.
I have been meditating for last 21 years. Today I am ready to bring out and discuss the imperfection of Vedas vs science of Guatam buddha.
The present practiced buddhist religion is also incomplete and imperfect like vedas are. I have come to this conclusion after being on Buddhist forum for 2 years.
I am Hindu by birth and have a overall basic knowledge of all religions of hinduism, gita and vedas, but I am not an expert on these.
I am almost perfect in my knowledge of Buddhism due to insights granted to me in meditation. I cannot impart insights to those who will come for discussion on this topic, but I have enough support of a sutra of Guatam buddha named Lotus Sutra. This sutra is worshipped by almost all the buddhist but no one has dared to expand it. I have felt fear arising in buddhists if I have tried to expand Lotus sutra. Even great saints of Buddhism feel them selves at loss, when it comes to Lotus sutra.
I also require a permission from the moderators here to open up the discussion
Hi Riju,
I don’t know about anyone else, but I would be interested in your perspective on the topic. My suggestion would be that you start a thread in the “Other Systems…” forum as your topic does not directly relate to AYP practices.
Best wishes,
Jeff
Moderator note: Topic moved for better placement
Hi Riju,
Was wondering if you were planning on posting regarding your perspectives?
Best wishes,
Jeff
I am giving below what role Buddhas are playing in this creation according to Lotus sutra. The Buddhas have created a place Named NIRVAN whom they protect.This Nirvan acts as a cohesive part of the whole system of Buddha and the Wisdoms. And each era adds to the life of the SYSTEM, so that it is ETERENAL and safe and goes on building up.
1.All existence and creation that we see is because of CAUSE and EFFECT and God/Atma/Soul has no role to play in it.
2. Ego which is present in every life is the source of start of cause.
3. The POWER of Ego is different in different lives. Taking the case of human beings the power of Ego in each one is different. We can say that Ego with more power can be called a higher Ego.
4. There is a method available for every life to increase its Ego to higher or lower level.
5. The Ego is guided by WISDOM/ IGNORANCE to create small or large causes and the effect comes automaticlly to enhance or reduce its power.
6. Enhanced Ego has a limit beyond which it cannot rise. But Wisdom can rise above enhanced Ego of an indivitual Ego and over power it to guide the indivitual Ego to grow higher.
7.So Wisdom ( its other name is Buddh in sanskrit) at some stage takes the control of indivitual Ego.
8. The Higher Egos have higher and more powerful evel of Wisdom and can easily empower the lower Wisdom of an indivitual.
9. The very high powered Egos with very high level of Wisdom are called BUDDHAS.
10. These Buddhas create huge Milkiways with many galaxis with billion billion years of life.
11. Our galaxi was a part of huge milkiway and was controled by a Buddha named GREAT UNIVERSAL WISDOM EXCELLENCE.
12.He had 16 sons who ruled over 16 parts of this milkiway under HIS guidence.This milkiway had many many galaxis.
13.15 parts of that milkiway along with many galaxis have after contributing their Wisdoms, Bhoddhisattvas etc. gone back into BLACKHOLE leaving remaining unprocessed egos behind in the last galaxi.
- This balance is the galaxi in which we live and Guatam Buddha the 16 son is the incharge.
- When this last galaxi under Guatam Buddha enters Blackhole , one era will be complete.
- Next creation which comes out of the Blackhole will have its design based on the wisdom collected in this era by various Buddhas and in that creation surrived Bhoddisatvas will again take rebirth
AND THE CYCLE OF EVOLUTION WILL GO ON.
Guatam Buddha has also left a careful scientific method by which an indivitual Ego can grow to highese level to Buddhahood and play a positive part in improving the creation further. This method briefly consists of - The 4 noble Truths.
- 8 fold path of right existence
- 12 linked existence chain
- Hinayana/therwada/ Mahayana suttas are full of description of the path of growth.
Hi Riju,
So from your perspective, existence sort of continually evolves to create more Buddhas and once you reach buddha level you sort of become responsible for a “region” of what we call existence? Are Buddhas sort of responsible for the development of egos in their region, or are they mostly left on their own?
Also, what is the purpose of the Buddhas having a separate and protected zone for themselves?
Thanks,
Jeff
Every Ego is independent.
Except In the region of Buddha the laws of that Buddha are strigent for the rise to Buddhahood. Buddha has direct control over his sons. The sons get the right to become a son by a mutual consent and occupy and continue the turn to rule by seniority of there karma records.The reign period of that Buddha continues till all his sons also have entered Nirvana.
There are many Bhoddisattvas below the Buddha.All these boddisattvas are having independent Egos and follow the path of evolution according to their own Wisdom ad Creativity.But their status in the ruling Budha’s reign depends on the laws of that particular Buddha.
Each Buddha creates his region over a long period of time. He rules over also for another long period of time depending upon the vastness of his creation. And the effects of reign of Buddha and his sons have also a different period.
All Buddhas when they go to Nirvan surrender their Ego, But their power rains down upon everyone else according to seniority as below.
- Sons
- Bhoddhisattvas as per seniority
3.Pratyakabuddhas
4.Shakra, Brahma, wheel turning kings.
5.buddhists human beings
I see four major advantages in the system.
- At high levels the Wisdoms are permanent and become the law for bhuddists.The system give extreme high priority to entenal factor in this.
- Each and every Wisdom acquried by the Ego at our or a little higher level also adds strength to the system.
3.Karma speed of the indivitual Bhuddic Ego also speeds up due to these Wisdom strengths added to the system.
4.There is a perfect recording of strength given to the system from lower to higher level and hence there is perfect democracy.
Hi Riju,
Regarding your point 4… How is it a perfect democracy if it is solely based on the relative “strength” of the being. It seems to me that you are more describing a feudal hierarchy or system.
Regards,
Jeff
THIS YOU HAVE TO BELEIVE…IT IS SUPPORTED BY LOTUS SUTRA AND BY A VERY DEEP SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE THAT I WENT THRO ON 30TH JUNE 1992.
Like a small computer chip can keep a billion datas of information, same way our body has cosmic electons that keep information of our moment to moment karmas and also gives back its fruit.
Buddha system also has the same system of information source and an automatic system of rewards or punishment.
Is this not a perfect democracy?
In a perfect democracy every Ego decides his/ her own path and cosequences are also his/ her.
In a imperfect democracy there are no perfect records and politics and favouratism can enter.
In a fuedal system king is free from this bondage and there is no system of records for general public. King favourates get plum jobs and efficieny is neglected.
Hi Riju,
But above you said “Except In the region of Buddha the laws of that Buddha are strigent for the rise to Buddhahood. Buddha has direct control over his sons. The sons get the right to become a son by a mutual consent and occupy and continue the turn to rule by seniority of there karma records.” So the Buddhas get to make all of the rules and have direct control over all of the sons.
Do Buddhas actively try to “help” with ongoing ego growth? Or, do they just set up the rules of the game and step back?
Thanks,
Jeff
The relation between father and son at highest level of buddhahead is different from what we see here on earth.
The differences are…
- The son is not biological, as there are no males and females at that level.
2.Any Ego (you or me etc) can qualify to become a son. - Every Ego meets with a lots of challanges and finds out his solutions to these challanges. These solutions come in the mind of Ego from around him thro mental planes.
- This Ego develops WISDOMS thro these challanges and solutions.At a certain this Ego starts recogonising the source of mental solutions. As a result devotion and logical questions start coming in the mind of the Ego. And in the process the connection gets stonger and stonger. And this Ego becomes a NATURAL SON of the Higher Ego.
- If this connection is between a Buddha and the Ego. The son father relation starts. This relationship can happen between any God and an Ego. Only when Ego has totally synchronised with the higher Ego, the father and son relation developes.
Buddha does not have to step back, sons have become his extension.There is no twoness. It is only oneness between son and father.
Plane devotion does not work. Devotion can start the process. And then the existence brings out the difficulties. Which developes Wisdom and only Wisdom (nothing else) connects with Buddhas.
Every God has his own system.
Some gods recogonise love, others devotion, and other compassion.
Some gods recogonise talents or Siddhis or art.
Buddhas accept only WISDOMS
WISDOMS are based on NATURAL laws of evolution (cause and effect}
This creation started from EMPTINESS/SUNIATA/ADVAIT/ATMA/ TATAV/ DAO by breaking up due to viberations and this was the CAUSE.And there were many CAUSES after that for further break up.
AWARENESS recogonises the CAUSES and understands THE EFFECTS of these CAUSES. This undertanding is the WISDOM.
I wrote an article on evolution of ants and bees. Thid is a start up of relationship between queen ant and other ants as of father and sons.
Bees and Ants
As a child I would observe ants.
I will bring some good quantity of food before a single ant.
The ant would come near the food, observe it, taste it, and try to move it. If it cannot move the food due to its size, it would start moving around the food with increased speed and it would appear that she is dancing around the lump of food.
After a short time, while she is still dancing around the food, a flood of ants will apear from no where and all of them together will take away the food.
When I grew older I studied them further in books and found out that presence of queen ant gives them power to convey messages to the queen and also receive instructions through air, as our wirless does. Same system is also prevelant in Bees.
Now I know the science behind it.
There is AWARENESS energy in the queen ant. Part of this awareness energy of queen ant has been distributed among labour, fighter and builder etc. ants.
These ants are children of the queen ant.They can receive wireless message from Queen ant and they have to obey for survival as this awareness energy is source of life for them. If queen ant dies natural death, a few days before another
ant grows in size and shape to take the position of dying ant.There is passing on of awareness energy to next body.
If the queen ant dies suddenly due to accident, then the follower ants get scattered. Many die. A very few find another queen ant and slowly join he if the queen ant accepts them.
Same is the case with many of us human beings. An enlightened person knows where his awareness energy is connected. Many have Buddha/Christ/Allah/krishna/ Guru Nanak/ Vishnu etc. awareness.
Lotus sutra advises against interference with other awareneses, as it will harm them and also will harm the one who is interfering due to karma law.
There is a story in Mahabharata. Brahma was sitting on a Lotus flower stem of which came below from the sea. He was alone and was wondering why and how he has come to be in this position. So he went down the stem into the sea to find out the source. He went down and down and yet there was no end to the stem or sea depth. He got tired and came back on the Lotus flower. He had no alternative but to meditate on the thought of his position. In this meditative state he came to receive a message that he has been sent here to start a universe.
So receiving messages in the air in meditative state is happening. And knowledge received in meditative stage is direct and without misunderstanding. Knowledge through the scriptures is second hand and errors can creep in them.
Hi Riju,
As you describe your overall creation and ruling buddha/son perspective, I don’t see how it is that different from other traditions. How would a buddha be different than the Hindu God Vishnu with different emanations of him being “sons”? Or some of the ancient interpretations of the Jewish tradition where El is the God most high (creator), Yahweh (manager) is a son and egos are “souls”?
Thanks,
Jeff
Hi Jeff,
Yes many gods have their own evolution system as per their ego desire.
I mentioned earlier that these gods have based their universe on one or many factors like love, empathy, compassion etc. along with sons or consorts or friends,
None of them survives for long.
Buddha system is Eternal because it bases its system on NATURAL laws of CAUSE AND its EFFECTS. It develops WISDOMS understanding the law of breaking of one Emptiness into many due to CAUSES. It developes WISDOMS accordingly and hence has already achieved such heights of evolution that it survives ETERNALLY.
It has designed Parlay, Mahaparlay, etc. to rebuild and allow creativity and Wisdom to other egos. Simply to go on improving upon the system.
The BASE of Buddhahood is on strong foundation of NATURAL laws of Emptiness.
All other Gods are working on their systems. Those systems have to reach a height beyond EGO and yet survive. Normally above Ego plane everyone becomes EMPTINESS. Indivituality does not remain. The systems die away because of that.
Some of these gods with their systems, understanding the WISDOM of NIRVAN (a place above ego, surrounded and protected by Buddhas) enter the Buddha system at higher levels and they become Bhoddisattvas.
Hi Riju,
So every region is sort of controlled by a God or Buddha, is the whole earth under the control of one being? What about all of the parallel dimensions of the earth?
Thanks,
Jeff