Hello all, I’m doing TM practice for 5 years now, and I want very much to start practicing the Samyama at this point. The problem is that I’m not sure at all if I understand how to do it, it’s really very confusing me, I read lessons 150 and 151, and I also read several threads in which you discussed this subject, but still I don’t understand how to use the sutras. I think that the best thing will be if I’ll just focus my points one by one -
I don’t understand how exactly should I pick up the sutra, I understand that I should take only the meaning of the word (fuzziest feeling) but even when I’m trying to do that I can still hear the sound of the word very clearly in my head like any other thought, even during the 15 seconds it keeps comming up several times as a clear sound, for example when I do the word “Love” I can hear the word “Love” echo inside my thoughts over and over again, what should I do? Should I resist it?
What do you mean by “and then letting the sutra go into silence”? Should I just say the sutra once in my head (for example to think “Love” once as a clear word in my thought) and then stop thinking it and just observe the thoughts as they come naturally in my silence?
In many of my meditations I don’t reach deep inner silence, will it disturb me when I do the Samyama practice? must I reach deep silence before I start the Samyama?
I’m just interesting, what do you think will happen if I’ll add the sutra “Bliss” to my list? will it help me to feel the bliss?
Please, if possible, try to explain it in you own words, as simplest as possible, links to other pages will be OK but I also want to hear the explanation from you, in simple words as you can.
Thanks very much, and I hope you can help!
Just say the sutra once and let it go, what ever happens in-between happens in-between, just allow it, don’t resist.
Yes sounds good.
Don’t worry about it, Samyama is not an over-night practice, some days we have less silence, some days more. Just do the practice and let it go (forget about it).
AYP, I have to say I find your handle somewhat confusing or misleading – when I first saw it, I thought it was a forum admin posting.
Would you be interested in changing your handle to something else? There is a precedent for this where someone obliged to change her handle because it was easy to confuse with ‘Yogani’.
Hi David, I really did not had any intention to confuse anyone here with this name, it was just the first name that jumped into my head when I wanted to write here I’m sure that anyone reading my questions will understand immediately that I’m not the admin of this forum
AYP said:
Hi David, I really did not had any intention to confuse anyone here with this name, it was just the first name that jumped into my head when I wanted to write here I’m sure that anyone reading my questions will understand immediately that I’m not the admin of this forum
AYP, I certainly wasn’t suggesting that you were confusing anyone deliberately. You are not being by any means blamed for choosing that handle. Rather it is being explained, without any blame, why it is desirable to change it. Yes, I believe you that you indeed just picked the first name that jumped into your head; and it may be true right now that anyone reading your questions right now will understand immediately that you are not the admin of this forum. But there remain sound reasons to ask you to change your handle nonetheless:
Firstly, there is no guarantee that all of your posts will be in the form of questions. If you are a typical poster, some of your posts will be in the form of answers or comments, including replies to other people’s posts at times. Someone who is unaware of who you are, particularly someone unfamiliar with the forum, could easily be misled into thinking you are an admin of the forum in such cases.
Secondly, the confusion is undesirable even if it is eventually resolved or even resolved quickly. Your handle attracts attention, and may even draw a reader to a post of yours, who thinks it is an official AYP post. This happened to me, for example. A poster may be drawn to read your post, thinking it is an official AYP post; they may even not have read it otherwise. We value people’s time and we value not misleading them in that way even if it is for a short amount of their time. This was the same kind of confusion that bothered people who were confusing another poster for Yogani. That was why some of them asked her to change it. She changed it because she wanted to be helpful; she did not want the handle she had chosen to have those undesirable effects.
Does that make sense?
Well, how does the NEW name fits me?
David, your explanation was so good that I just couldn’t resist!
Hope to get more answers for my questions!
Thanks people!
Thanks bliss hunter that’s considerate of you. You didnt need to re-join though… it could have been changed by Yogani, still never mind its done now
Good choice of name by the way
Richard
Good job Bliss Hunter. I knew you just needed to understand, just like Yoginstar, who used to be called Yogini, which people were confusing with Yogani.
Yes, as Richard said, your old handle could have been changed. However, in this case, you have so few posts so far under the old handle that it hardly matters.
To tell you the true? I’m not so sure about this new name. On the one hand it’s shows my longing for the Bliss, but on the other hand, the hunter is killing it’s prey, and this is the last thing that I would like to do to the bliss… so, what do you say? should I change it to something more positive?
Noooo its a terrific name we are all hunting bliss.
Hunting for something can just mean searching its all in the context. We all know you wont want to kill your bliss.
Yeah, when they say ‘the heart is a lonely hunter’, they don’t mean the heart is looking for something to kill.
Still, the most important person to be comfortable with your handle is you.
OK, Thanks people, I’ll stay with this name then!
So… can you please tell me what did the Samyama practice did to you? how did it influenced your life? was the change really dramatic? did you feel it right from the start? from the first or the second time that you tried it?
Thanks!
Was it a tuff question or what?
Maybe it will be better to open a new thread for it?
Here is the question again:
Can you please tell me what did the Samyama practice did to you? how did it influenced your life? was the change really dramatic? did you feel it right from the start? from the first or the second time that you tried it?
Thanks!
Hi Bliss Hunter,
Yes, it was probably a tuff question!
I can only answer for myself. I practiced Samyama for a couple of months last summer, then decided to discontinue because of head energy symptoms (not because of the Samyama practice). I plan to start again but right now meditation is all I can do. When I did Samyama it felt peaceful, but I didn’t notice any other effects. However, I still think 2 months is much too short time to judge (by the perceived outer effects) if Samyama works or not. We would do well in viewing all yogic processes and transformations as long term.
I think it’s best to keep it in this thread, people are reading it!
(Edit: added parenthesis)
Thanks for the advices weaver
It’s just that I heard that the Samyama should be much more powerful than the normal TM practice, and that the changes are much faster here comparing to the regular practice, I heard that people who are practicing Samyama feels lot of bliss during and after the practice, I just wanted to know how much from it is true.
Actually I heard all that about the TM Sidhi practice but as I understand it is actually the samayama so there should be no different.
Also as I asked in the beginning of this thread I would like to hear from you in your own words an explanation for the right way to do the Samyama becouse It’s not so clear to me when I’m trying to do it (And I read Lessons 150 & 151) and I really want to clear things up and to know that I’m doing it right becouse it’s very important to me, I don’t want to waste time doing it in the wrong way.
Thanks.
I’m sure that anyone reading my questions will understand immediately that I’m not the admin of this forum 
Good luck with your samyama!
