How did you come to know it?
How did you come to know it?
Just told you.....practicing Deep Meditation twice a day everyday for several years. That is, unless the "it" you are talking about is something other then Inner Silence. Love! :+1:
How did you come to know it?
Just told you.....practicing Deep Meditation twice a day everyday for several years. That is, unless the "it" you are talking about is something other then Inner Silence. Love! :+1:
Who taught you to practice?
Yogani('s lessons) did.
Let’s not derail this thread any longer though. If you want to continue to discuss this lets start a new thread.
Love!
Then we are each gurus for one another.
The inner and outer gurus, world united is the illusory body of brahma.
Hi John,
No worries there… I’m not married, never have been. 
Hey Christi,
So you have developed the capacity to leave the physical body. What are your travels like? Does this happen during sleep? During meditation? How long are you gone? Can you go to physical places, or visit people? Can we meet there sometime?
J
Hi Christi,
I was serious in my above questions. I believe anything is possible for the yogi, because our only limitation can be a disbelief in our imaginations, in our potentials, collectively. The faculty of imagination opens many doors to us, and is of great use in our spiritual practices, just like in the practice of magic. Just like in any creative endevour. Otherwise there would have been no J.S. Bach nor A. Einstein. Furthermore, we are more connected by a tangible unity than separate, non metaphorically speaking, literally.
J
While it is true that your beliefs can limit your progress, it is not true that your beliefs create your enlightenment. That is where creative endeavors differ from practical yoga techniques.
If someone absolutely believes that committing more murders will make them more enlightened, will it work for them? Not very likely, because enlightenment is a process built into our bodies, not something created out of our imagination.
Of course that example is absurd, but I am using it to illustrate a point that is harder to see with other examples. And that point is that certain practices will lead most people toward enlightenment, and other practices usually won’t, no matter how vivid your imagination is.
Let’s not assume that the negative power of disbelief also has as much positive power.
An analogy would be a person who had been driving with their parking brake on, releasing it and then thinking that brake release handle increases the power of the engine tremendously!
The body is built out of imagination. Eyes touch each others forms. The mind enjoys it. Then bodies touch each other. The mind enjoys it. Then a body is made. The mind arising from this body resembles the parents imaginings in many ways. If the body-mind arises from an error in imagination, then perhaps relying on that error is also an error. “Enlightenment is a process built into our bodies” is a belief no? The contours of action are honed from the images behind our words. Seeing how these images and boundaries shape our mandalas and our actions and our speech is a very useful way to wake up from the illusory body. What do we hold to be true? That is the illusory body.
Beliefs are functions of the mind. We need to step outside of the mind with deep meditation and find inner silence and the witness before inquiring into the mind. Otherwise it is mind games that create only more words.
Words don’t enlighten people; practices do.
How did you learn the practices?
The nature of existence is to enlighten. There are no discrete contours of black and white. Modern people love having a good workable methodology, a scientific method. That is the mandala of modernity. Once the Self is your mandala. Everything happens by itself. In this very moment that changeless awareness seems to permeate every perception. This is not just words. It’s something to see during practices.
Everything happens by itself if you wait many lifetimes. The reason people investigate yoga is they want to take actions that cause a difference in this lifetime. Of course many people are willing to wait lifetimes for everything to happen by itself, and there is nothing wrong with that approach. Those are the people who are not interested in yoga.
What I meant by “words don’t enlighten people” is this:
Yogani has given us very simple practices that lead to enlightenment. And also he has written much about advanced methods. But you can read his writings everyday for the rest of your life and not become enlightened, even if your imagination is extremely creative.
That is because the practices he has given us are represented in words. Words are a method of imagining.
A good part of enlightenment is learning to stop imagining because words lead us away from reality.
Deep meditation is a practice that does just that; it shuts down the words of the imagining mind. This is the kind of practice that leads to enlightenment, but only if you do it consistently, twice a day, for a long time. Other practices that lead in the same direction are much more difficult, and not any more effective.
For instance, try imagining being a yoga master without using words. It’s pretty difficult. After working on this for some time, you will realize that the only way to do that is increase your bhakti. You could practice this twice a day if you wish. What you will find is words will begin to creep into your practices. That’s where deep meditation comes in. It’s a method of stopping those words from creeping in.
The right words timely spoken by the master to the receptive person yield enormous benefit. Sheaths of coverings that would have taken lifetimes while practicing yoga can be removed in an instant. Of course, a person must become receptive. Practices can make this happen. This grand awakening ritual of living and dying is truly grand. It assumes so many forms. Maya is a great spectacle. Thoughts, dreams and events of the past so difficult to remember, the inevitable future so easily ignored, the present too impossible to comprehend. Then, this awareness here literally permeates everything I see, hear, feel, taste, touch, do and think. It naturally distinguishes between everything instantly and perfectly, without itself changing or doing anything. The Protector, the Pacifier, the All-Knower, the Self.
I agree, practices can make this happen. and it’s much easier for some people who have done past life practices.
Hi John,
I can’t leave the physical body at will, but it happens sometimes. I have never experienced it during sleep, or during meditation. I cannot go to other physical places or meet other earth bound beings, I can only visit heaven and meet the angels and ascended masters.
Christi