Taming of the imagination

1.2 Yoga Chitta Vritti Nirodah “Yoga is the taming of your imagination.

When I translated this sutra I used the word taming to explain Nirodah, not the words suppressing or destroying.
You will never get rid of all thoughts, not at first anyway, Because your thoughts are wilds and often out of control the best you can do is tame them temporarily, and you do that during your asanas, pranayama, DM and samyama. 
Eventually you will achieve “one pointedness” which is that state of concentration where it is very difficult for even the most persistent ideas to surface during your practices, this is the beginning of the end of suffering.

It is no small feat, it takes time, but time is the key. When you practice two hours a day it can amount to one month a year, a whole month in deep silence. Meaning that after 12 years of AYP, you will have spent close to a whole year in your meditation seat.
I agree it’s a bit exaggerated and impossible to achieve but the potential is there, don’t miss out.
:pray:

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Hi Alain,

I haven’t seen it translated as ‘suppressing or destroying’. I thought it was ‘cessation of fluctuations of the mind’?

The problem for me with the word ‘taming’ is that it suggests ‘control’,like an ‘lion-tamer’, and I think this could be misleading.

Rather than taming or controlling, are we not supposed to be surrendering? After all, ultimately there is no separate self entity to control these fluctuations of the mind.

Best wishes,

Tom

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Hi Alain and Tom,

Interesting discussion.

If you want to refine the translation further it can be useful to know that nirodah (nirodhaḥ) is actually a noun, not a verb. So it is not “taming”, or “suppressing”, or “destroying”, or “stilling”, but rather refers to a state where the fluctuations of the mind are still.

So, it could be translated like this:

yogaḥ citta-vṛtti-nirodhaḥ

“Yoga is the state in which the cyclical nature of the mind and emotional centre (citta) have become still.”

I have put mind and emotional centre because chitta contains thoughts, memories, processes of reasoning and emotions.

We see this definition of yoga as a state of stillness in the Katha Upanishad which was probably composed between the 5rd and 3th centuries BC:

“When the five senses and the mind are still, and reason itself rests in silence, then begins the Path Supreme. This calm steadiness of the senses is called yoga. Then one should become watchful, because yoga comes and goes.” [Katha Upanishad]

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Thanks Tom and Tristan, I appreciate your comments, I used taming because I imagine distracting thoughs as wild animals that can be tamed but can still revert back to their original state if left unattended. :pray:

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Hello all
As mentioned above, Nirodah is not taming nor supressing etc… words just point to the experience and words are limited and can be confusing
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I would say the experience is a calm and loving disinterest towards the mind fluctuations who become weaker and weaker…you end up barely noticing the mind fluctuations cause they dissolve immediately in silence

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Hi all, I realise that words dont do yoga justice, since yoga is an experience of the union with “That” it is beyond words. But we love yoga so much that we feel an obligation to share our relationship with it, and for that all we have are words. But that is not important, my original intent was to highlight the importance of practicing regularly. Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water. :pray:

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Hi all.

A first point to emphasize is the relationship between the word yoga and nirodha which introduce and end this sutra. Indeed, the word yoga itself took on two meanings over time: the first commentators of the Ys say precisely that the word yoga is derived from the root YUJ- meaning to put to rest, which is found in French in the verb “juguler” (to brake, to control). Later on, another translation will be often preferred, bringing YUJ_ join, unify, closer together. In AYP, Yogani will make us move forward jointly between the discovery of inner silence, the fruit of the cessation of the fluctuations of the mind, and the “ecstatic bliss” gradually leading us to Union.

Thus it is evident in the coherence of the Ys that “chittta vritti nirodha” unequivocally focuses the basis of the practice as “stopping the fluctuations of the mind” or for my part “stopping the trains of consciousness” joining Christi here by including in the term “train of consciousness” everything that will be described in the following sutras (YS 1.6 and following) thus in an inclusive way (thoughts, memories, emotions, affects,…) projecting us into a train of consciousness as soon as we are no longer in the state of Yoga (YS 1.4). I use the term train to show that the isolated contents of consciousness are less alienating than the dynamics that generate and carry them, a train whose destination we do not control, the term vritti meaning whirlwind.

If we come back to the practice – which is important to all of us here – when Yogani describes Dm as the center of ayp practice, he “sets to music” this sutra in a simple and effective way. In fact, the use of the mantra is not a “chitta vitti”, a train of consciousness that is added to our personal trains of consciousness, but a form of brake, imposing not a repression or a struggle but a gradual slowing down, a calming down of these trains of consciousness that carry us away in a kind of waking dream, a form of “taming” to use Alain’s term.

Another point to emphasize is that this sutra and practice is not some kind of isolated preliminary exercise that will be abandoned as soon as we have deeper and deeper experiences, Samadhis. Indeed, in sutra 1.18 the YS specify that even in Samadhi without support (the content of which they are careful not to describe in order to avoid producing new trains of consciousness), there remain “memorial contents” capable of producing new “trains of consciousness”. Indeed, if in the state of Samadhi without support there are no formal contents of consciousness but a Presence that only covers the inner silence, if each Samadhi profoundly changes in us what we are, it is not an end but a stage on the path that leads to deliverance. So before and after each Samadhi will remain “chitta vritti nirodha”, the search for inner silence not as a static exercise but as the more and more living discovery of this divine ocean that is inner silence.

But next to these timeless moments that are the Samadhis, “Chitta vritti nirodha” is not limited to our DM sessions but will gradually become a cardinal constituent of our spiritual as well as personal evolution. Indeed, as we persevere in our practice, in everyday life a new inner sensitivity manifests itself that alerts us as soon as we are identified with our trains of consciousness as underlined in the fourth sutra (Ys 1.4). It must be emphasized that this is not a conscious effort to “extirpate” them by force; which will be ineffective, but an inner “signal” resulting from the emergence of a new “inner sense” resulting from practice. For example, I drive and I realize that I am no longer focused on my driving but that I am “leaving” in a set of memories, I then return to my behavior, without facing them or taking pleasure in them, in the same way that in the Dm I quietly return to the mantra. In this case, the “brake” is no longer the mantra but the concentration on my activity, a concentration that is already, whatever its object, an extension of my practice.

This suffering, (YS 1.5) the signal that we are “subjugated” can concern our body, pain, an energy deficiency or on the contrary an overexcitement, our emotions (sadness, anger, …) or our thoughts (incomprehension, feeling of absurdity) but also a spiritual suffering resulting from the awareness that we are losing our spiritual path, the unbreakable and dynamic link that unites us to the inner silence. Whether it’s DM or everyday life, the first step is always the sudden realization that we are on a train of consciousness, a waking dream. This awareness will sharpen gradually. It will not interfere in any way with our daily activities, on the contrary it will make us more efficient, more balanced and more focused, the benefit being as much personal as spiritual. Then comes the cessation of these movements that escape us.

Thus we understand to what extent Dm of the AYP and Chitta vrittis nirodha of the Ys designate the same thing, the installation of the Drastr, pure consciousness in its own form (YS 1.3) which is no longer a form of consciousness but a “spiritual form”, the inner silence, the living fullness all along our path.

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Hi Mithuna,
Your aphorisms are very beautiful, I lke your explanations, I see a good balance of spirituality and technicality. :pray:

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Some light poetry to conclude the thread

     Why  yoga

My mind is a machine
It is a thought machine
Day and night it produces thoughts
There is no breaks and that is tough

What is my brain? Is it a slave?
If that’s the case can I be saved?
What if I give up, put my hands up
So down I go, but wait is that a cop?

Shoot them thoughts, murder death kill
I can’t he said that would be evil
Yoga those thoughts that is the law
Tame those thoughts, just mow the lawn

They are still there, tiny blades of grass
Easy to walk on, so I can pass
My eyes open I follow the practices
Because if I dont my thoughts will become cactuses

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