here are some of the observations of my practice i want to share with you. and it may differ for others
stage1: i start chanting the mantra, my mind gets clear from external thoughts, totally focusing on mantra and the main thing i feel is i have to feel the vibration of mantra in my body like a rythm.
stage2: i feel slight warm around my body and then a coolness around my body.
stage3: then inner silence starts and my head starts turning, i noticed that this turning depends upon the amount of activity on that day, less activity less turning. yesterdy i had almost 90 degree turn on the left hand side.
stage4: the energy body starts to coincide with physical body in a straight line, when this happens, i achieve complete inner silence and ecstasy and its fantastic, and slowly my body start losing the awareness only the consciousness left. and i feel like iam floating. at this stage i also heard the sound āhissssā on the back of my head.
stage5: then starts the heaviness, my body gets much heavier and feel like body is expanded.
yesterday in this stage my consciousness automatically shifted to the centre of my head just behind the ajna chakra (cave of Brahma), and i really felt inside some cave totally black and getting condensed and iam not sure i was breathing or not, and it was really fantastic, also in this level i heard the sound āoooooooooooooonnnā like āOmā exactly on the top of my head, but like from a distance place. when i came out of meditation still i felt the pressure inside my head and also a mild head ache.
I didnāt know that āMantra Meditationā has this much power
Thanx
With Love and Respect
Kumar
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Wow Kumarā¦ sounds like wonderful things are happening to you with your meditation.
I just want to clarify one thingā¦ and I think its more of a language thing than a problemā¦ but in any caseā¦
You saidā¦
stage1: i start chanting the mantra,
When you say chantā¦ you mean repeat it in your mindā¦ not say it out aloud right?
Also, when you do start noticing all the wonderful thingsā¦ treat them like distractions and come back to the mantraā¦
And the last thingā¦ when you start your meditationā¦ donāt expect any of these things, rememberā¦ your experiences during meditation will change over time. Meditation itself should be like brushing your teethā¦ just do it every dayā¦ twice a dayā¦ its how this practice makes you feel in your daily activities is what the true measure of progressā¦
I donāt mean to minimize your experienceā¦ so please donāt get me wrong. All these wonderful experiences give us that push to keep goingā¦ just donāt get hung up on themā¦
Wish you all the bestā¦
Hi Shanti
i mean to say that āi chant mantra in my mind and not aloudā
Thank you very much for your encouragement , i will follow your advice when i do the meditation.
āMeditation itself should be like brushing your teethā¦ just do it every dayā¦ twice a dayā
This is very much true Shanti. because even if i miss a day of practice and among all the day of activities and work, next day getting the inner silence takes time.
Thanx
Kumar
Even before reading your comment Shanti, I was going to ask the same question.
Chanting for me means producing audible pysical sound.
So Kumar, please clarify this for us.
The topic of saying the mantra in oneās mind versus saying it with
oneās voice came up so many times, I really am wondering.
L&L
Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang
I chant the Mantra āinside my mindā and its described like that in āAYP Mantra Meditationā Lesson
do you chant the Mantra verbally with āPhysical Soundā?
Thanx
it seems that these days i have to make āSamyamaā on English Language
No, I donāt produce a physical sound (which I would call chanting),
but when I started with AYP it was one of my questions.
I understood (and understand) that the mantra should only be in the mind,
but I was curious what consequences it would have when I would
chant the mantra (making physical sound), and there are quite
a few posts around concerning the difference between those two
different practices.
L&L
Wolfgang
Hey, I just have to ask one thing that is slowly getting to meā¦ I just have to thank you, Athma first, I totally recognize your description above of the different sensations and āstagesā.
And when you describe the āblack caveā, my mind twisted, and I went to look up in Yoganis lessons how he has described inner silenceā¦ I have not understood the different ādepthsā of inner silence. I thought it was the non-thinking state in a more general senseā¦ but then I hit a sentence where he says that āit has many namesā¦ e.g the voidā. And when I read Athmas post here, I was hit with amazement: IS INNER SILENCE = THE VOID? Holy moses!!!
Sooā¦ hey, guysā¦ Are you in the big darkness, the black void where everything is just love, everytime you meditate??? I have just not grasped that THAT is the inner silence that is talked about. I have just touched the void a few times and it was the most amazing, wonderful, total āexperienceā I have ever BEENā¦ Hmā¦ This cannot be grasped with the mind - I know - but I just find it so surprisingā¦
Sorry, but I feel I swing back and forth in my understanding/knowing of thisā¦ anyone have any thoughts or comments, suggestions on other threads or lessons where I can read more? I will start plowing this part of the forumā¦
IS INNER SILENCE = THE VOID? Holy moses!!!
In a word, yes. But maybe Moses isnāt that holy or special after all. Weāve all got it inside us.
āInner silenceā is called by many names, including also āsamadhiā. Thereās a lot more on the subject here (under the heading of āsamadhiā):
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=667
Hi EMC,
I think there are many words for it: Inner Silence, presence, being, the void, oneness, nothingness, no thing, space, inner space, emptiness, samadhi etc.
all the best,
Anthem11
Great link, David! Thank you!!! Getting clearer and clearer!
Hi emc
i donāt know the exact chemistry behind this āblack caveā, first time i had this experience.
but i had similar experience when i was meditating on crown. i felt total black and voidness but its kind of expanding voidness. but the āblack caveā is kind of sucks you inside that place and kind of condensing voidness.
i followed the link posted by David, thanx David and i found Yoganiās answer very helpful and direct.
Yogani says:
āwe are having an energy experience, not a samadhi experience.ā
āEnergy is very edgy, and that edginess is due to āfrictionā of the energy moving through the obstructions in our purifying nerves.ā
āInner silence wants to moveā
what i understood from Yoganiās post is.
when we feel more and more inner silence our body awareness loses and we are aware of āconsciousnessā
wherever the consciousness moves - energy (Kundalini) follows it.
I think the chakras are doorways to kind of other layers or dimensions.
when we place our conciousness to particular chakra, the energy manifest in specific form and we get different experiences depending upon the amount of purfication we have. i think āsamadhiā is a experience where we have total awareness of consciousness.
I wonder is there any chakra located in āblack caveā where the spinal column starts?
is there any circuit connecting this āblack caveā to the crown? or it can be achieved through āKechariā?
I use to bring the kundalini to crown through the ajna chakra.
I just want to show you the circuit how i bring the kundalini to crown.
---------- p3ā¦
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---------- p1ā¦p2
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---------- | (spinal column)
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p1 - āblack caveā |
p2 - ajna point |
p3 - crown point |
. - path of kundalini |
Thanx |
Kumar |