Hi Kirtanman and all,
I just read your non-experiences
Kirtanman and your description sound really inspiring. It resounds true somehow, like home
. Thank you so much.
I am new at this. I always searched for the truth although kind of non-deliberately until very recently. I was just “curious and adventurous” let’s say ![]()
But now I wonder. I do want to feel Samadhi and I think that is something I will someday (I practice AYP) but I wonder about one thing that scares me a bit: ecstatic conductivity. I read the problems people have with this “kundalini” thing and it sounds really scary especially because I think I am kind of sensitive and had some energy imbalances/profound experiences in the past (but not really beautiful, just scary and really troubling…a mind thing or real energy imbalances?) and am a little scared at getting energy imbalances again or feeling something I am (my body) still not prepared for. That is why I take self-pacing very seriously and am just concentrating in I AM meditation for now, with some very good results.
But I wonder about you. It seems you had not those kind of problems. Why do you think that is? I am trying to find a balance to get the right ammount of desire versus self-pacing not to hit my head against a wall again. So, any advice would be welcome. Should we just trust our inner instinct (guru)? What would be your guidelines? For example, would meditation be enough? (sometimes I feel like it would) Thank you so much.
Of course, comments from anybody else are appreciated as well!!
Hi Yogaislife,
Kirtanman is in deep samadhi at the moment, but I am sure he will answer when he is next on the forum
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I thought I would chime in as I have also been lucky enough to experience some of the “good fruits” of yoga just as Kirtanman has, and I have also managed to avoid many of the problems that people can have during an awakening of this kind.
Ecstatic conductivity comes as a result of kundalini awakening in the body. Kundalini is a powerfull force and should not be treated lightly. If it is not managed in an intelligent way then you can experience the problems that you refer to.
The real key is in “self-pacing” of practices, and AYP (and Yogani) is really the pioneer in this field. In AYP, the clock is used to stricktly control the timings of practices. New practices are added very slowly, and timings of existing practices are increased slowly. If problems occur, then times are cut back systematically until the system (body/ mind/ emotions) stabilizes again.
The only other way to ensure a smooth path to enlightenment would be a slow and gradual approach, using practices that are very gentle (such as prayer or breath meditation) only. Even this isn’t guaranteed without self-pacing, and many meditators and people who practice prayer can come into difficulties. This was the path that I took before coming to AYP (using only silent meditation. Since coming to AYP I have used much more powerful practices and have self-paced accordingly. Over the years I have experienced many of the symptoms that people can complain about, but never in an extreme or uncomfortable way. This has been useful as it means that I can now recognise the symptoms very quickly, and respond to them when they come up.
Now I experience spontaneous states of samadhi, but I am still very conscious of timings around practices.
The other key to having a smooth path of awakening is to practice grounding methods. These have been discussed at length in the forum and a search under “grounding” would reveal many threads on this subject. Self-pacing and grounding are probably both in the topic index of this forum by now.
Good luck
Christi
Wow! I just read this thread for the first time.
If this exchange of information doesn’t motivate other newbies like me to keep up their practices and crank out a few more sessions of SB and DM when they get bored, I don’t know what will…Thanks to all the contributors!
Before reading this thread I had thought Samadhi might be like sex with my wife (except without all her complaining afterwards…) but now it looks like it’s a totally different and mind blowing experience…
…Wait a minute…but now that I have expectations I’m probably screwed and will never experience Samadhi %$#!..Thanks for ruining the surprise and negating my enlightenment
…just kidding…
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Kirtanman…I love your posts…
If there ever is a wheat vs chaff filter on AYP … make sure this thread is placed in the wheat barrel.
Sita Ram, Kirtanman!
Thank you for your posts in this thread.
Namaste,
Suryakant
Thank you, Doug, for this post, it was fate and destine for me to come across this message from you as I am getting close, maybe 3 more years or maybe 6 but I am determined in this lifetime. I have sincerely absorbed your message with my heart. As the buddha once said “when you fix your heart on one point, then nothing is impossible for you”.