Lots of Overwhelm and Little Progress After 7 Years of Kundalni

About 9 years ago I had an experience of higher consciousness in a grocery store. I felt bliss, peace, warmth toward strangers, freedom and incredible ease. This lasted for several hours and then there was a flurry of negative emotions and a feeling of profound emotional instability. There was also a sense of energy moving in the body. Not knowing what this was I white knuckled it for a few days until it passed.

Two years later there was cultural and familial pressure to invite someone to a significant life event. I did not want to see this person and feeling this pressure I was overtaken by emotions associated with decades of mistreatment by this person. I then began to experience daily kriyas, stuck energy and emotions in the body, restlessness, agitation, increased sex drive, psychic experiences, etc. This has continued for 7 years.

21 months ago I learned TM and it gave me things I’ve never had before including a deep peace, feelings of love, “happiness for no reason”, witnessing, resilience, greater maturity, etc. There was also problematic unstressing (purification) that did not ease with reduced practice or other measures.

In January, I experienced mood swings, head pressure, increased kriyas, and further sleep disturbance. I then took a month off from spiritual practice, evened out, and resumed with 5 minutes or less of TM. I didn’t experience the severe symptoms that I did in January but there was overwhelm and anxiety with every meditation. Frequently I also experience bodily anger for days and this is by far the most uncomfortable issue. The benefits from TM had also started to wane. Breath meditation did not help.

After a few more recent overloads from TM, a different form of meditation, yoga, and alternate nostril breathing, I’ve stopped all spiritual practice again and am doing more grounding than before. I would like to even out and try shorter periods of alternate nostril breathing as a means to gently purify my system.

I miss TM terribly and feel very lost in my kundalini process. After 7 years there is less tension in my body and my sex drive has lessened to a more normal level but other than that I don’t feel like I’ve made a lot of progress. About 2 years ago I felt a sensation in my chest that moved to my third eye (or head?) and caused bliss for several hours followed by a strong headache between the eyes. Recently I’ve felt tingling on the top of my head as if my hair is moving. I don’t know the significance of either of these experiences but again I don’t feel I’ve progressed all that much. Mostly it’s as I’ve described above–stuck energy/emotions, kriyas, restlessness/agitation, and days-long bodily anger episodes.

My questions:

  1. Is time off from all spiritual practice, grounding, and then conservative alternate nostril breathing a reasonable plan?

  2. Please comment on my feeling that I haven’t progressed as far as kundalini. What changes can I make and is it possible that I am progressing and haven’t felt it. For instance, the opening of energy channels?

3). How do I balance “allowing” vs grounding. For instance, if I am overwhelmed by energy should I sit with it and allow it to pass through me or ground? I mostly “allow” because traditional grounding recommendations haven’t done all that much for me but recently I’ve found that baths and a weighted blanket does help.

  1. I’d appreciate any advice on how to deal with bodily anger. There seems to be a lot of stuck sadness beneath it. Crying relieves episodes but despite being willing it’s hard for me to cry and often when I do it is tearless.

Thanks very much!

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Hi MMLight,

You seem to have a good grasp on how to manage overload symptoms!

So you suggestion 1) to pause practices and then resume with alternate nostril breathing does not sound too bad!

In AYP, when practioners are experiencing excessive energy symptoms with 5 min or less of mantra meditation, we generally recommend to switch to the breath as a meditation object (which you said you tried), and if that still is too much, we switch to an open awareness meditation. There is an AYP lesson about this somewhere. If you can find a meditation practice that is stable for you, this can really help with the Kundalini. If you cannot get meditation to not be uncomfortable, staying at no practice is the best move.

Maybe someone else can also chime with some more thoughts?

Best regards :smiling_face:

Adrian

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Thanks, Adrian. I did try open awareness meditation with every expectation that it would go well and still experienced overload. I just feel lost with it all and can’t believe how sensitive my system is. I am going to lean into grounding and hope that helps. Thanks for your input.

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Hi MMlight

All your symptoms are k symptoms. .so it is not true that you are making little progress

Alternative nostril breathing is good

Usually we don’t sit to ground…we go about daily activities that is the grounding

And time is needed to start feeling grounded

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Thanks, Maha… I am going to try a lot more physical grounding and keep moving. I just had the roughest 5 days in a long time but I am feeling better today. Hopefully I’ll be ready for the alternate nostril breathing soon.

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Hi MMlight,

Welcome to the forum, and thanks for sharing your story.

Lesson 367 is the one with suggestions for oversensitive meditators. You seem to be familiar with much of what is in that lesson already. Another one you may wish to check out is Lesson 69 on kundalini remedies.

Your awakening in the grocery store 9 years ago could be said to be “spontaneous,” but such events are always preceded by spiritual efforts (practices and/or contacts) in the past, sometimes a long ago forgotten past.

One of the best blueprints for your experience, if not an easy solution, is the Gopi Krishna story. He was an ordinary Indian guy who meditated for some years on his crown (a no-no in AYP), and had an explosive kundalini awakening, with the extreme ups and downs associated with it, similar to your awakening. It took him many years and lifestyle adjustments to stabilize the situation, and he eventually became a writer and teacher on the subject of kundalini. His landmark book from the 1960s is “Kundalini - The Evolutionary Energy in Man.” You may be familiar with it already.

Having a “premature” kundalini awakening is not an easy way to go, so teachings that emphasize kundalini first should be approached with caution, if at all. Much better to cultivate abiding inner silence with an effective meditation practice first, with many months or years of that kind of practice being recommended. Then a gradual kundalini awakening can be cultivated with less upheaval. The key is cultivating a balance between inner silence (shiva) and ecstatic awakening (shakti/kundalini) through a gradual process utilizing a range of practices, leading to stillness in action in daily life and an outpouring of divine love in service to others, i.e., freedom. It can be done within an ordinary lifestyle of career and family, though certainly not without challenges along the way. This is what the AYP writings are about.

In your case, I think you have been wise to take up TM (similar to AYP deep meditation) to work on the inner silence side of the enlightenment equation. However, with an active kundalini, you have run into sensitivity issues. So you are having to play defense. That’s ok. It is what it is, and you have a pretty good grasp on the situation, and that is half the battle. So how to proceed? Which gets to your questions.

Self-pacing (reducing practices when necessary) is very important for all practitioners, and especially in your case. There is no way you can force your way through the evolution happening in you. It will take the time it takes, and you will do best to accommodate it for smooth and steady progress.

As mentioned by Maha earlier, grounding means being active, walking, swimming, social and service activity, whatever gives you energetic relief and a sense of purpose other than obsessing over your symptoms, which will only amplify them. Some light alternate nostril breathing can help, as can some light spinal breathing pranayama (see lessons 39-41 and 69), but only if light pranayama helps. It may or may not, and should not be used if it aggravates your energies.

A light set of asanas, and/or a class where some social activity is added can also be grounding, but only if it works in your case. A Tai Chi class is also good for grounding and social contact. Everything tried has to be measured against your specific experience, with adjustments made as necessary. It is the fine art of self-pacing.

Spiritual progress is subjective. The best measure is in how we feel during normal daily activity, and also how others see us. Is life getting better? which can simply mean less upheaval than before. In your case, a better understanding of your situation than you had years ago and learning to handle it is progress. So continue…

“Allowing” can be something to do in passive awareness meditation, which is a technique offered in AYP for oversensitive meditators, and also is discussed as a measure that can be used in deep (mantra) meditation in Lesson 15 on the witnessing technique. But I don’t think you should be doing this as an all day thing, though some neo-advaitins might disagree. Imbalances can be dissolved by allowing if there is sufficient abiding inner silence. Otherwise, it may be best to get up and ground in activity. You will know from your experience. If it works, do it, but not overdo it. And if it does not work, don’t do it. Go for the best alternative according to your experience, and not overdoing that. Stay flexible.

On bodily anger. Anger is the result of unfulfilled desires. You can use that anger (and all emotions) to great benefit on your path by converting it to bhakti, an expression of your spiritual desire toward your chosen ideal (ishta). See Lesson 67 for more on that. Bhakti can be overdone also, so caution is advised. But if you are going to be mad, be mad for God. That will bring results.

Keep up the good work. It is going to be alright.

The guru is in you.

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PS: There is also this book by by lead AYP teacher Tristan Dorling, which you and others having kundalini experiences may find helpful:

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Hi, Yogani-

Thank you for your thoughtful and helpful reply. You have lifted my spirits and I feel better about my plan going forward. It’s interesting that you mention that awakening experiences are always preceded by spiritual efforts. I had in fact meditated (for the first time) before the trip to the grocery store. Interestingly before the meditation I set an intention to fall out of myself—or the state I was in—and into something more pleasant. I got more than I bargained for!

Thank you for the book recommendations. I am somewhat familiar with Gopi Krishna’s story but have not read the book. I have ordered it from my library system and am reading Tristan’s book now.

I greatly appreciate AYP’s focus on self-pacing. As obvious as it should be this is something I need to hear again and again as there is that tendency to want to push, to want to feel good and to progress. But as you have pointed out there is no way to push through this and slow and steady is better than an erratic practice and experience. I have learned this the hard way. I heard a quote recently “slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.”

I am in fact guilty of focusing on my symptoms and this does amplify things. I am trying to ground and get out more and find a better balance between allowing and grounding.Yesterday I ran in the woods for 2 hours and this morning I walked for an hour with plans to go again tonight. After I experience some stability I will begin to slowly add ANB and from there consider other practices as you’ve outlined. I am looking forward to reading and rereading the AYP lessons you’ve linked to.

Thanks again for your help and for AYP!

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Welcome to the forums, MMlight.

Plenty of good advice given, I would just add that being active as part of a spiritual community also helps even out excessive energies as well as some more grounding type of service to others. Or just going out with friends, being in a social atmosphere.
Basically opt for social interaction rather than solitude during periods of overload.

Sey :pray:

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The presence of others and serving others are incredibly grounding, your attention turns outward, and if you allow, radiates from the heart center.

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Thank you, Sey. It makes sense what you are saying it’s just that every molecule in my body is screaming for solitude. There are sensory sensitivities and so much that can overwhelm me. But I hear what you are saying sometimes when I am forced into social situations I feel a little bit better if I don’t get overwhelmed. I do spend time with my wife every day and I am not completely cooped up in the house. I run several days a week in the woods and do yard work. I try to be friendly to people when I am out and about. Thank you for your thoughts. I hadn’t even thought of social activity as grounding. I will try to push the envelope a little bit.

Thanks, Michael. I was feeling this when I was doing TM. I had spend my whole life being selfish and all of sudden I had this heart felt interest in others. Once in a while I help my neighbors with something and it feels nice. More food for thought, thank you.