Liberation Unleashed

A great website with true and honest people :slight_smile:
http://liberationunleashed.com/index.html
a global movement of people helping others to see through the illusion of self, that there is no separate entity behind the word Ć¢ā‚¬Ėœme’.
We guide the seeker to pass through what is often called the Ć¢ā‚¬ĖœGateless Gate’ or in classical terms, Stream Entry to Enlightenment or Truth Realization. The awakened journey begins here.
We use the Direct Pointing method, which consists of a dialogue between a guide and seeker. The guide poses very specific questions in order to focus the attention on the seeker’s experience of the present moment. This triggers the awakening insight often referred to as Ć¢ā‚¬Ėœseeing no-self’.
All you need to do is bring your honesty, curiosity and courage. If you are ready to look directly at experience, we are ready to guide you.
Click on the link, and follow the instructions there to engage with a guide. The guide will help you, through direct questioning, to dive deep into your own experience. We will not give you more concepts, we will question those that you already have until you are left face to face with reality. It is that simple.
Simple, but at times fears arise. It takes courage to question your deepest beliefs. We try to work with directness and courtesy, but if we find resistance in looking, we might use the Zen stick to bring focus back to the Gate.
By ā€˜crossing the Gateless Gate’, the illusion of the separate self is seen through. This is the end of the seeker and the beginning of living as the natural state.
We ask nothing from you except your own intention to see.
We make a bold claim. Awakening is available now, in a short time, on the internet and for free. If you are ready, get Posting Rights.
Welcome to Liberation Unleashed

Yes, thank you Ananda, and first of all Miguel who pointed to this site in the topic ā€œsuicideā€! It’s truly amazing! If you are ready. I think that’s the key point in their description. If ripe - it goes fast. If not… there’s practices to do! :slight_smile:

Yes it is :slight_smile:
I really don’t care what others say, it shouldn’t be so hard for anyone. This works! it really does! being it is challenging but it’s very beautiful and just so simple, easy and peaceful. In case crossing the gateless gate happens, Adyashanti’s work is of great help.
Peace :slight_smile:

The design seems to be that you can’t SEE until the nervous system is ripe. If you haven’t done a great deal of work in earlier lives, but then you are born with a ripe nervous system. It’s only seen as simple after the fact! Please, never forget how frustrating it is to not see before you do. :kissing_heart:

I’ll paraphrase the very good Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Hanh:
It’s more dangerous to become attached to the notion of no-self (anatman) than the notion of self (atman). :smiling_imp:

Now it’s my turn Bodhi Tree!
ā€œEcho echo echo echoā€¦ā€ :grin:
Love!
Carson :+1:
P.S> I went through the Liberation Unleashed process after Miguel mentioned it in the ā€œSuicideā€ thread and in my opinion this is neo-advaita at it’s finest. Just my opinion… don’t shoot. :wink:

Gut-busting LOL, Carson!
Now I’ll quote the beloved Captain Hook from Peter Pan:
ā€œGood form, Peter, good form.ā€ :smiling_imp:

P.S. I really like ā€œThe Awakened Dreamerā€ – Lori Ann, who is listed on the links section of Liberation Unleashed…splendid blogs and poetry.

Don’t worry dear, I haven’t forgotten this fact. On the other hand, I can’t help but think that to some who are over there the awakening has happened only on the mental level. Reminds me again of relational and non relational self inquiry… Maybe I am wrong of course.
Love,
Ananda

This is the beauty of this whole thing, there’s being awareness. No self is just a word. It’s just waking up from the mind story. Everything is still here, it’s just different. As for attachments, they have never been so transparent. But then again I am speaking from my own experience, I’ve noticed some of the people there struggeling with thoughts and mind games after passing through the gate. But a lot of others are living good.

Whatever works :sunglasses: Speaking for myself, I am happy with the results. A serious shift has happened. It’s like being samyama now. I wouldn’t share this thing if it didn’t really help me out.
Love,
Ananda

Carson, I agree and I disagree.
I think if people are getting stuck in ā€œbelievingā€ they are liberated because they have an intellectual understanding of non-duality, or maybe even a temporary seeing of no-self, largely because they don’t know enough about what Realization/Enlightenment means to realize they have a [long] way to go, then there’s a problem. I feel like LU kind of encourages this, by calling everyone who can recognize ā€œno selfā€ liberated. This could be a trap for inexperienced spiritual seekers, and egos who are quick to jump and call themselves liberated.
On the other hand, Direct Pointing is actually a valid and useful technique for negating false beliefs. I was strongly identified with a self, a self who was seeking blah blah blah, until LU’s method gave a direct insight into the erroneous nature of this belief. For me this was the first time that I’d really started to look at what I’d accepted as ā€œtrueā€ (with regard to sense of identity) and question it for myself.
The following happened after this:
Direct experiences of no-self. For my entire life, consciousness has been identifying itself as what is perceived: visual image of body, bodily sensations, emotions, thoughts etc. Whilst there had been some disidentification with thoughts and emotions, never had had the experience of just being pure consciousness in which all these perceptible phenomena are arising. Suddenly I experienced all perceptible phenomena as empty of self, as simply arising in consciousness, perceptible phenomena lost that sense of being ā€œthe only realityā€.
Complete disidentifiation with mind: I’m no longer believing any mental stories. This in itself, is pretty liberating. I’d already had a good deal of calling the mind on its own BS, but now there is a total dropping of mental stories about life, from moment to moment.
Fierce increase in bhakti: these glimpses dramatically increased my desire for spiritual practice
Complete change in spiritual practice: If I’m honest with myself, I mainly started doing AYP with a vague idea of what enlightenment might be, and just generally wanting ecstasy, and some kind of end to the constant suffering of life. This is an attachment in itself, that I now recognize as having blocked me from recognizing reality. The orientation has changed: From wanting to feel better, to a furious, intense desire to realize the truth, even if it results in my own dissolution.
blah blah blah - I wont bore you with any more details. What I’m saying though, in essence, is that LU was a really important catalyst for a direct, experiential shift in spiritual practice, and it also completely blew up my certainty about sense of identity. Not having a clear belief about who I am anymore, and then being curious to find out, has opened the door for a more direct experience of reality.
I think this is some pretty important progress, and LU was the valuable catalyst for this.
But I think LU should come with a disclaimer saying ā€œjust because you’ve eradicated the erroneous belief that you are an individual self, doesn’t mean you are enlightened, or really even liberated, there is a hell of a lot more work to doā€. lol.
:sunglasses:

totally agree with this statement
in your case it happened because you were ready…LU had no role in it…even LU is not in control :wink:

:grin:

:sunglasses:

More sceptical view.
I visited this site. It promises to give liberation though Internet conversation (answering to guide questions) during 2-3 weeks time, sometimes faster. Enough examples on the site where people became ā€œliberatedā€ as they say.
Looks like mind games to me. May be useful as small assisting tool, but nothing more. Also what striked me - guides ask maximum honesty from novices (it’s understandable); but no information on guides themselves is given.

Dear Yuri,
What is available there is not full enlightenment but non the less a great shift that helps our self inquiry a step further. That is all.
Love,
Ananda

I see it this way as well, there are all the infinite assumptions and conclusions people, including those who recognize that it is all just arising in a field of consciousness (and see no I) have made about the world/ existence, that will come back to visit for all eternity, until the illusions are seen through. Ironically, this often includes fixed thoughts and ideas about other people, i.e judgements about the world, etc.
It would seem that most if not all people have had the experience of seing past a limiting view about another person, situation, previously held belief, etc. until understanding is expanded by becoming less limited. For example, seeing that there is no ā€œIā€ can come long before seeing that a certain situation or object may not be as it seems. Or that there are deeper dimensions of understanding that can arise about the surrounding world/ universe. The latter I see as continuing on indefinitely. The universe is a living, changing phenomena and an open mind will also continue to let go of previous perceptions and become a smoother and more efficient operator in the world of form.

I’m operating on the belief, assumption and experience that, in fact, the truth of self is a paradox: the individual ego DOES exist as an extension of the ONE. Since awareness can identify a single flicker within a fire full of flames, can you truly deny either the single flame or the entire fire’s existence? The whole depends upon the individual, and the individual upon the whole. A paradox.

I agree with you both, great inputs. Thank you for sharing dear ones :slight_smile:
Dear Bodhi, you remind me of the words of Sri Ramana on the non existence of a doer in all this. Someone asks him how to realize that there really is no doer and Sri Ramana suggests to either just do stuff and realize right then and there that stuff are done without a doer or there’s the second approach to realize that ā€œAll is done through you by God.ā€
I’ve personally chosen the latter :slight_smile:
Love,
Ananda