Hi Dogboy,
The book is on it’s way along with The Radiance Sutras by Lorin Roche. 
Looking forward to them.
Hi Charliedog,
I too have been listening and reading Igor Kufayev for few years now. 
He is indeed very clear! In my opinion Kashmir Shaivism and AYP complement each other perfectly.
I’ve listened to quite a few of Osho videos. They are all beautiful. But it feels like he is not grounded but to each his own.
Sally Kempton is another wonderful K.Shaivism teacher.
Sunyata I ordered too the book of Daniel Odier…it takes two weeks because it has to come from the US 
Thank you for your sharing
Sweet! I would love to read your review. Mine should be here by next week.
Hy Sunyata, I just read in another thread that you are reading Roche’s book. It would be interesting to talk about that, wouldn’it? In the other thread you called the book a “translation”, but to me it does not sounds like a translation (which is not to say that Roche’ book is not good!). What is your point of view?
Hi Ecdyonurus,
It is Roche’s interpretation of the Vijana Bhairava Tantra- dialogue between the divine masculine and divine feminine. It has just blown me away. The last six years I’ve had to work on integrating the awakening so it has been more experiential path and haven’t done much reading except for Yogani’s books and lessons. And limited to Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramana Maharishi and Yoganada.
I’ve discovered Kashmir Shaivism and it’s knock your socks off reading combined with AYP practices. Also, I like the fact that Roche has included the Devanagari script(Sanskrit),translated it into Roman letters and then included his own interpretation. I can read much better in English than Sanskrit but it’s been nice to brush up on my ability to read the Devanagari script.
In my personal practice, I invoke my Isthas through mantras before I sit for my daily practice. I’ve also started reading a page of Roche’s book to invoke the inner energies before my practice. This has been powerful. So, I’ve had to self pace on the book because each word is so potent that it makes the inner energies stronger. I’ve stopped at pg.70 for right now.
In a nutshell, the book is simply his interpretation of his experience with the inner energies over his decades of practice. The words to describe the book - Divine Ecstasy.
Have you read the book? I would love to hear your perspective.
Hi Sunyata,
Thanks for your reply - very interesting!
My knowledge of the philosophy called Kashmir Shaivism is shallow, but if we allow ourself to keep it very schematic we could consider that „Shiva“ and „Shakti“ of that philosophy are called „inner silence“ and „ecstatic conductivity“ in AYP, well, I can understand why you wrote that Kashmir Shaivism can be combined with AYP practices. Please don’t hit me if this sounds too schematic…
Anyway, although I don’t know much about eastern philosophy and yoga systems, my feeling is that AYP is largely based on a tantric approach, despite the fact that Yogani seems to root his writings mainly in the Yoga sutras of Patanjali. I wrote „seems to root“ because this could be my distorted understanding of Yogani’s writings, of course. Again, please dont hit me…
Concerning Roche’s book, I also find it brilliant and inspiring, and like you I also look at it as his personal - and very inspiring - interpretation oft he Vijnana Bhairava Tantra, not as a translation like a scholar would do. Also, it is clear that he integrated in the rendition his own meditation experience, which seem to be quite huge.
But what I don’t understand is how you can combine this book with the AYP approach to meditation practice, because if I understood things well, the way the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra approaches meditation practice is very different from the AYP approach:
- The Vijnana Bhairava Tantra considers that each practitioner is different, and therefore each practitioner has to find his/her own meditation practice among the 112 radically different methods contained in the book. Roche’s approach goes even further, including meditation techniques that sound very „freestyle“.
- AYP adopted a single mantra meditation technique with a basic mantra for every practitioner and a very limited set of enhancements oft he basic mantra. The variable elements in the AYP approach to meditation are that each practitioner has to find the right duration of his/her meditation session and the right mantra enhancement (or just stay with the basic mantra).
What is your point of view on that aspect?
By the way, I envy you for being able to read Devanagari…
It’s snowing here, and I love the snowflake dance – it is vibrant and peaceful at the same time.
Hi Ecdyonurus,
I really enjoyed reading your response too.
Likewise, I have just started dipping my toes, so my knowledge on Kashmir Shaivism is limited. Similar to AYP, Kashmir Shaivisim/ Tantra considers mind to be illuminated and divine. Creation is the dance between the Divine Masculine and Divine Feminine and the celebration of merging flesh with spirit.
I really can’t speak for Yogani. I believe he has a lesson on this.
Yes.I prefer to read interpretation by people who have walked this path like Roche and Yogani rather than a scholar. In the East, the Brahmins (priests) are well versed in the Vedas and recite them. But the big question is- Are they living that reality?My guess is- probably not the majority of them even though they are able to verbatim the Vedas.
As I have mentioned before, I’m not even half way through the book so I cannot comment much.
I use the Radiance sutras as a source of inspiration and use AYP techniques. The energy that Roche writes about is the same energy that is felt after practicing AYP over four years. So, they complement each other and honestly the practices described overlap. As we know, Truth is simple and it’s the same. No matter who or how we describe it.
AYP offers the basic mantra, mantra enhancement and breath meditation. This is plenty for a dedicated practitioner to choose from and advance. I once heard that a man reached Self Realization by repeating rotten pumpkin all day (I don’t recommend this to anyone. 
) Faith, Patience, Dedication (Bhakti) is the main ingredients to walk this path.
Haha…Don’t be too envious. I’m not a scholar. I can understand simple words and may be read some sentences. 
Sublime. I just took up dance along with my Asana practice so I can relate. I can’t find words to describe how the higher energies rejoice in being able to feel themselves in the body.
You know, I really like how you think. If I remember correctly, you are an engineer and I’m married to one. By nature, I’m laid back and don’t care too much for the little details as long as I’m enjoying the ride. It can be good and bad. Like everything, I believe it’s balance that creates harmony.