546 From: “jim_and_his_karma” <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:31am
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As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt work to keep everything going.
He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about the practices, handling the book
publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering his considerable wisdom and
experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not a young man, and I share his
concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he does. That can only happen if
some of us step up and help out.
So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I figured I’d take the first step. I think
most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent writing lessons and advising via
email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor for the beautiful thing he’s created
and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
- moderate this forum (stave off fights and commercialism and all that, process new
registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved off, etc
and/or - getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these practices, I gain appreciation for
their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could experience what we’re
experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the message out there…and we, the
first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m not suggesting banging drums in
airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to connect these methods with the
countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish someone had told ME about them
sooner!
None of the above requires any level of spiritual attainment! So even if you’re a lurker here
who’s never said a word, and are just launching your journey - but see the value of this
particular method - and you have skills, connections, time, or other assets that might help
with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot me an email).
And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your yoga friends know about this
practice. So many folks are working on asana these days, and missing all this good stuff.
Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the better a world we’ll have to live in!
548 From: “Kathy” <nagoyasea@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:22am
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Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to finish his
novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this summer. If some
level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist in
moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path in
general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to meetings or
groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it. It’s an
easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some interest
pick it up and some ask questions or start a conversation…that
way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
Light and Love,
Kathy
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
<jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
>
>
> As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt work to
keep everything going.
> He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about the
practices, handling the book
> publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering his
considerable wisdom and
> experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not a young
man, and I share his
> concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he does. That
can only happen if
> some of us step up and help out.
>
> So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I figured I’d
take the first step. I think
> most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent writing
lessons and advising via
> email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor for the
beautiful thing he’s created
> and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
>
> 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and commercialism and all
that, process new
> registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved off, etc
>
> and/or
>
> 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these practices,
I gain appreciation for
> their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could experience
what we’re
> experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the message
out there…and we, the
> first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m not
suggesting banging drums in
> airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to connect these
methods with the
> countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish someone had
told ME about them
> sooner!
>
> None of the above requires any level of spiritual attainment! So
even if you’re a lurker here
> who’s never said a word, and are just launching your journey - but
see the value of this
> particular method - and you have skills, connections, time, or
other assets that might help
> with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot me an
email).
>
> And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your yoga
friends know about this
> practice. So many folks are working on asana these days, and
missing all this good stuff.
> Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the better a
world we’ll have to live in!
555 From: “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:17pm
Subject: Re: Helping AYP nearoanoke
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I think most of us would be ready to volunteer and moderate this
group. But as kathy as pointed out the question is of level-
headedness. I think yogani might himself request for our help when
he feels we might do a good job.
One observation i want to make is that after the moderation started
recently, group activity became a bit less. Ofcourse moderation has
done good things too.
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “Kathy” <nagoyasea@y…> wrote:
>
>
> Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
>
> I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to finish his
> novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this summer. If
some
> level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist in
> moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
>
> Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path in
> general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to meetings or
> groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it. It’s
an
> easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some interest
> pick it up and some ask questions or start a conversation…that
> way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
>
> Light and Love,
> Kathy
>
> — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> >
> >
> > As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt work
to
> keep everything going.
> > He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about the
> practices, handling the book
> > publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering his
> considerable wisdom and
> > experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not a
young
> man, and I share his
> > concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he does.
That
> can only happen if
> > some of us step up and help out.
> >
> > So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I figured I’d
> take the first step. I think
> > most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent writing
> lessons and advising via
> > email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor for the
> beautiful thing he’s created
> > and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
> >
> > 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and commercialism and
all
> that, process new
> > registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved off,
etc
> >
> > and/or
> >
> > 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these
practices,
> I gain appreciation for
> > their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could
experience
> what we’re
> > experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the message
> out there…and we, the
> > first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m not
> suggesting banging drums in
> > airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to connect
these
> methods with the
> > countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish someone had
> told ME about them
> > sooner!
> >
> > None of the above requires any level of spiritual attainment! So
> even if you’re a lurker here
> > who’s never said a word, and are just launching your journey -
but
> see the value of this
> > particular method - and you have skills, connections, time, or
> other assets that might help
> > with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot me an
> email).
> >
> > And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your yoga
> friends know about this
> > practice. So many folks are working on asana these days, and
> missing all this good stuff.
> > Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the better a
> world we’ll have to live in!
558 From: “jim_and_his_karma” <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:49pm
Subject: Re: Helping AYP jim_and_his_…
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I had Yogani’s permission to post a query. I was concerned he might be overextended, and
he is indeed doing lots at once. And he’s written in the lessons about hoping we’ll
establish a horizontal network. This isn’t about him, it’s about the teachings, and if we
don’t work to publicize them and foster a community for discussing/supporting them,
nobody else will…and they’ll fade and die. Yogani wrote the lessons, for which I’m real
grateful. He did his part, let’s do ours!
None of this is a momentous big job or huge undertaking of responsibility. We can divvy
up (easy) tasks. If anyone’s interested, please email me. If we have a crew in place, maybe
we can get these great teachings more out there…and get this forum up to critical mass
(we have some great, experienced, interesting people, but could use a more!).
Oh, and moderation is essential for high quality online discussion. Without it, talk
invariably degenertaes into flame wars (angry fights), commerciality, and digression. Yes,
even in yoga forums!
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…> wrote:
>
>
> I think most of us would be ready to volunteer and moderate this
> group. But as kathy as pointed out the question is of level-
> headedness. I think yogani might himself request for our help when
> he feels we might do a good job.
>
> One observation i want to make is that after the moderation started
> recently, group activity became a bit less. Ofcourse moderation has
> done good things too.
>
> — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “Kathy” <nagoyasea@y…> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
> >
> > I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to finish his
> > novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this summer. If
> some
> > level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist in
> > moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
> >
> > Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path in
> > general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to meetings or
> > groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it. It’s
> an
> > easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some interest
> > pick it up and some ask questions or start a conversation…that
> > way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
> >
> > Light and Love,
> > Kathy
> >
> > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt work
> to
> > keep everything going.
> > > He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about the
> > practices, handling the book
> > > publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering his
> > considerable wisdom and
> > > experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not a
> young
> > man, and I share his
> > > concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he does.
> That
> > can only happen if
> > > some of us step up and help out.
> > >
> > > So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I figured I’d
> > take the first step. I think
> > > most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent writing
> > lessons and advising via
> > > email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor for the
> > beautiful thing he’s created
> > > and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
> > >
> > > 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and commercialism and
> all
> > that, process new
> > > registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved off,
> etc
> > >
> > > and/or
> > >
> > > 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these
> practices,
> > I gain appreciation for
> > > their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could
> experience
> > what we’re
> > > experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the message
> > out there…and we, the
> > > first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m not
> > suggesting banging drums in
> > > airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to connect
> these
> > methods with the
> > > countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish someone had
> > told ME about them
> > > sooner!
> > >
> > > None of the above requires any level of spiritual attainment! So
> > even if you’re a lurker here
> > > who’s never said a word, and are just launching your journey -
> but
> > see the value of this
> > > particular method - and you have skills, connections, time, or
> > other assets that might help
> > > with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot me an
> > email).
> > >
> > > And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your yoga
> > friends know about this
> > > practice. So many folks are working on asana these days, and
> > missing all this good stuff.
> > > Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the better a
> > world we’ll have to live in!
565 From: “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 0:36pm
Subject: Re: Helping AYP nearoanoke
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Hi Jim,
I am willing to moderate the group as per yogani’s guidelines.
Coming to the publicity thing, all of us i think have been doing
that individually already. If there is anything that we could
collectively do, that will be good.
If there are some computer geeks here who could help us build a more
attractive website for www.advancedyogapractices.com i feel that
would go a long way in giving publicity. Just my 2 cents
Love,
Near
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
<jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
>
>
> I had Yogani’s permission to post a query. I was concerned he
might be overextended, and
> he is indeed doing lots at once. And he’s written in the lessons
about hoping we’ll
> establish a horizontal network. This isn’t about him, it’s about
the teachings, and if we
> don’t work to publicize them and foster a community for
discussing/supporting them,
> nobody else will…and they’ll fade and die. Yogani wrote the
lessons, for which I’m real
> grateful. He did his part, let’s do ours!
>
> None of this is a momentous big job or huge undertaking of
responsibility. We can divvy
> up (easy) tasks. If anyone’s interested, please email me. If we
have a crew in place, maybe
> we can get these great teachings more out there…and get this
forum up to critical mass
> (we have some great, experienced, interesting people, but could
use a more!).
>
> Oh, and moderation is essential for high quality online
discussion. Without it, talk
> invariably degenertaes into flame wars (angry fights),
commerciality, and digression. Yes,
> even in yoga forums!
>
>
>
> — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think most of us would be ready to volunteer and moderate this
> > group. But as kathy as pointed out the question is of level-
> > headedness. I think yogani might himself request for our help
when
> > he feels we might do a good job.
> >
> > One observation i want to make is that after the moderation
started
> > recently, group activity became a bit less. Ofcourse moderation
has
> > done good things too.
> >
> > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “Kathy” <nagoyasea@y…> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
> > >
> > > I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to finish
his
> > > novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this summer.
If
> > some
> > > level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist in
> > > moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
> > >
> > > Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path in
> > > general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to
meetings or
> > > groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it.
It’s
> > an
> > > easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some
interest
> > > pick it up and some ask questions or start a
conversation…that
> > > way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
> > >
> > > Light and Love,
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt
work
> > to
> > > keep everything going.
> > > > He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about the
> > > practices, handling the book
> > > > publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering
his
> > > considerable wisdom and
> > > > experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not a
> > young
> > > man, and I share his
> > > > concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he
does.
> > That
> > > can only happen if
> > > > some of us step up and help out.
> > > >
> > > > So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I figured
I’d
> > > take the first step. I think
> > > > most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent writing
> > > lessons and advising via
> > > > email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor for
the
> > > beautiful thing he’s created
> > > > and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
> > > >
> > > > 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and commercialism
and
> > all
> > > that, process new
> > > > registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved
off,
> > etc
> > > >
> > > > and/or
> > > >
> > > > 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these
> > practices,
> > > I gain appreciation for
> > > > their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could
> > experience
> > > what we’re
> > > > experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the
message
> > > out there…and we, the
> > > > first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m not
> > > suggesting banging drums in
> > > > airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to connect
> > these
> > > methods with the
> > > > countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish someone
had
> > > told ME about them
> > > > sooner!
> > > >
> > > > None of the above requires any level of spiritual
attainment! So
> > > even if you’re a lurker here
> > > > who’s never said a word, and are just launching your
journey -
> > but
> > > see the value of this
> > > > particular method - and you have skills, connections, time,
or
> > > other assets that might help
> > > > with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot me
an
> > > email).
> > > >
> > > > And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your yoga
> > > friends know about this
> > > > practice. So many folks are working on asana these days, and
> > > missing all this good stuff.
> > > > Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the
better a
> > > world we’ll have to live in!
567 From: “jim_and_his_karma” <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Helping AYP jim_and_his_…
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Hi, Near
Awesome! I’ll drop you an email. It’d be best if we could have a group moderating, rather
than an individual. A few
reasons: individuals get busy, go away, lose interest, get stuck about about being king of
the
hill, etc. So it’s GREAT you want to help (I’ll help, too). Anyone else? This forum could get
really active (hope it does…what a great resource it could be!). We’ll need all the help we
can get. I’m NOT talking about tons of time. If you can add just a few minutes to your daily
“practice” to meta practice (do practice to help the practice), that’d be awesome!
As for the geeks, the first thing we could use is a new forum site (and we could then
choose to put the lessons there as well - I’m pretty sure Yogani supports “mirroring” of the
lessons on multiple sites; it’ll help ensure their preservation). Decent forum software
would mean we could have multiple discussion boards for multiple subjects, so it’s not all
blended together (e.g. this sort of thread wouldn’t disrupt the practice talk). If anyone out
there has opinions, don’t just opine from your zafu! Help out! Don’t be passive! Yogani
wrote it, now let’s do something with it!
Re: publicity, you say " If there is anything that we could collectively do…" Well, that’s
what we need to plan! Stuff doesn’t just happen! First step is to gather people who care
about this stuff and want to help do something. Next step is to discuss ideas. Then do it.
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I am willing to moderate the group as per yogani’s guidelines.
> Coming to the publicity thing, all of us i think have been doing
> that individually already. If there is anything that we could
> collectively do, that will be good.
>
> If there are some computer geeks here who could help us build a more
> attractive website for www.advancedyogapractices.com i feel that
> would go a long way in giving publicity. Just my 2 cents
>
> Love,
> Near
>
> — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I had Yogani’s permission to post a query. I was concerned he
> might be overextended, and
> > he is indeed doing lots at once. And he’s written in the lessons
> about hoping we’ll
> > establish a horizontal network. This isn’t about him, it’s about
> the teachings, and if we
> > don’t work to publicize them and foster a community for
> discussing/supporting them,
> > nobody else will…and they’ll fade and die. Yogani wrote the
> lessons, for which I’m real
> > grateful. He did his part, let’s do ours!
> >
> > None of this is a momentous big job or huge undertaking of
> responsibility. We can divvy
> > up (easy) tasks. If anyone’s interested, please email me. If we
> have a crew in place, maybe
> > we can get these great teachings more out there…and get this
> forum up to critical mass
> > (we have some great, experienced, interesting people, but could
> use a more!).
> >
> > Oh, and moderation is essential for high quality online
> discussion. Without it, talk
> > invariably degenertaes into flame wars (angry fights),
> commerciality, and digression. Yes,
> > even in yoga forums!
> >
> >
> >
> > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think most of us would be ready to volunteer and moderate this
> > > group. But as kathy as pointed out the question is of level-
> > > headedness. I think yogani might himself request for our help
> when
> > > he feels we might do a good job.
> > >
> > > One observation i want to make is that after the moderation
> started
> > > recently, group activity became a bit less. Ofcourse moderation
> has
> > > done good things too.
> > >
> > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “Kathy” <nagoyasea@y…> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
> > > >
> > > > I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to finish
> his
> > > > novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this summer.
> If
> > > some
> > > > level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist in
> > > > moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path in
> > > > general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to
> meetings or
> > > > groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it.
> It’s
> > > an
> > > > easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some
> interest
> > > > pick it up and some ask questions or start a
> conversation…that
> > > > way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
> > > >
> > > > Light and Love,
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > > > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt
> work
> > > to
> > > > keep everything going.
> > > > > He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about the
> > > > practices, handling the book
> > > > > publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering
> his
> > > > considerable wisdom and
> > > > > experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not a
> > > young
> > > > man, and I share his
> > > > > concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he
> does.
> > > That
> > > > can only happen if
> > > > > some of us step up and help out.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I figured
> I’d
> > > > take the first step. I think
> > > > > most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent writing
> > > > lessons and advising via
> > > > > email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor for
> the
> > > > beautiful thing he’s created
> > > > > and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and commercialism
> and
> > > all
> > > > that, process new
> > > > > registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved
> off,
> > > etc
> > > > >
> > > > > and/or
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these
> > > practices,
> > > > I gain appreciation for
> > > > > their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could
> > > experience
> > > > what we’re
> > > > > experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the
> message
> > > > out there…and we, the
> > > > > first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m not
> > > > suggesting banging drums in
> > > > > airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to connect
> > > these
> > > > methods with the
> > > > > countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish someone
> had
> > > > told ME about them
> > > > > sooner!
> > > > >
> > > > > None of the above requires any level of spiritual
> attainment! So
> > > > even if you’re a lurker here
> > > > > who’s never said a word, and are just launching your
> journey -
> > > but
> > > > see the value of this
> > > > > particular method - and you have skills, connections, time,
> or
> > > > other assets that might help
> > > > > with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot me
> an
> > > > email).
> > > > >
> > > > > And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your yoga
> > > > friends know about this
> > > > > practice. So many folks are working on asana these days, and
> > > > missing all this good stuff.
> > > > > Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the
> better a
> > > > world we’ll have to live in!
570 From: “obsidian9999” <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:48pm
Subject: Re: Helping AYP obsidian9999
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Yes, with a group helping, and with the workload fairly light, I’d
be happy to help too…
We need moderator guidelines, definitely.
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
<jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Near
>
> Awesome! I’ll drop you an email. It’d be best if we could have a
group moderating, rather
> than an individual. A few
> reasons: individuals get busy, go away, lose interest, get stuck
about about being king of
> the
> hill, etc. So it’s GREAT you want to help (I’ll help, too). Anyone
else? This forum could get
> really active (hope it does…what a great resource it could be!).
We’ll need all the help we
> can get. I’m NOT talking about tons of time. If you can add just a
few minutes to your daily
> “practice” to meta practice (do practice to help the practice),
that’d be awesome!
>
> As for the geeks, the first thing we could use is a new forum site
(and we could then
> choose to put the lessons there as well - I’m pretty sure Yogani
supports “mirroring” of the
> lessons on multiple sites; it’ll help ensure their preservation).
Decent forum software
> would mean we could have multiple discussion boards for multiple
subjects, so it’s not all
> blended together (e.g. this sort of thread wouldn’t disrupt the
practice talk). If anyone out
> there has opinions, don’t just opine from your zafu! Help out!
Don’t be passive! Yogani
> wrote it, now let’s do something with it!
>
> Re: publicity, you say " If there is anything that we could
collectively do…" Well, that’s
> what we need to plan! Stuff doesn’t just happen! First step is to
gather people who care
> about this stuff and want to help do something. Next step is to
discuss ideas. Then do it.
>
>
> — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > I am willing to moderate the group as per yogani’s guidelines.
> > Coming to the publicity thing, all of us i think have been doing
> > that individually already. If there is anything that we could
> > collectively do, that will be good.
> >
> > If there are some computer geeks here who could help us build a
more
> > attractive website for www.advancedyogapractices.com i feel that
> > would go a long way in giving publicity. Just my 2 cents
> >
> > Love,
> > Near
> >
> > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I had Yogani’s permission to post a query. I was concerned he
> > might be overextended, and
> > > he is indeed doing lots at once. And he’s written in the
lessons
> > about hoping we’ll
> > > establish a horizontal network. This isn’t about him, it’s
about
> > the teachings, and if we
> > > don’t work to publicize them and foster a community for
> > discussing/supporting them,
> > > nobody else will…and they’ll fade and die. Yogani wrote the
> > lessons, for which I’m real
> > > grateful. He did his part, let’s do ours!
> > >
> > > None of this is a momentous big job or huge undertaking of
> > responsibility. We can divvy
> > > up (easy) tasks. If anyone’s interested, please email me. If we
> > have a crew in place, maybe
> > > we can get these great teachings more out there…and get this
> > forum up to critical mass
> > > (we have some great, experienced, interesting people, but could
> > use a more!).
> > >
> > > Oh, and moderation is essential for high quality online
> > discussion. Without it, talk
> > > invariably degenertaes into flame wars (angry fights),
> > commerciality, and digression. Yes,
> > > even in yoga forums!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think most of us would be ready to volunteer and moderate
this
> > > > group. But as kathy as pointed out the question is of level-
> > > > headedness. I think yogani might himself request for our help
> > when
> > > > he feels we might do a good job.
> > > >
> > > > One observation i want to make is that after the moderation
> > started
> > > > recently, group activity became a bit less. Ofcourse
moderation
> > has
> > > > done good things too.
> > > >
> > > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “Kathy” <nagoyasea@y…>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
> > > > >
> > > > > I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to
finish
> > his
> > > > > novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this
summer.
> > If
> > > > some
> > > > > level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist
in
> > > > > moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path
in
> > > > > general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to
> > meetings or
> > > > > groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it.
> > It’s
> > > > an
> > > > > easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some
> > interest
> > > > > pick it up and some ask questions or start a
> > conversation…that
> > > > > way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
> > > > >
> > > > > Light and Love,
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > > > > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt
> > work
> > > > to
> > > > > keep everything going.
> > > > > > He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about
the
> > > > > practices, handling the book
> > > > > > publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering
> > his
> > > > > considerable wisdom and
> > > > > > experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not
a
> > > > young
> > > > > man, and I share his
> > > > > > concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he
> > does.
> > > > That
> > > > > can only happen if
> > > > > > some of us step up and help out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I
figured
> > I’d
> > > > > take the first step. I think
> > > > > > most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent
writing
> > > > > lessons and advising via
> > > > > > email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor
for
> > the
> > > > > beautiful thing he’s created
> > > > > > and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and
commercialism
> > and
> > > > all
> > > > > that, process new
> > > > > > registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved
> > off,
> > > > etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and/or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these
> > > > practices,
> > > > > I gain appreciation for
> > > > > > their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could
> > > > experience
> > > > > what we’re
> > > > > > experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the
> > message
> > > > > out there…and we, the
> > > > > > first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m
not
> > > > > suggesting banging drums in
> > > > > > airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to
connect
> > > > these
> > > > > methods with the
> > > > > > countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish
someone
> > had
> > > > > told ME about them
> > > > > > sooner!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > None of the above requires any level of spiritual
> > attainment! So
> > > > > even if you’re a lurker here
> > > > > > who’s never said a word, and are just launching your
> > journey -
> > > > but
> > > > > see the value of this
> > > > > > particular method - and you have skills, connections,
time,
> > or
> > > > > other assets that might help
> > > > > > with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot
me
> > an
> > > > > email).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your
yoga
> > > > > friends know about this
> > > > > > practice. So many folks are working on asana these days,
and
> > > > > missing all this good stuff.
> > > > > > Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the
> > better a
> > > > > world we’ll have to live in!
572 From: “jim_and_his_karma” <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Helping AYP jim_and_his_…
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Rather than completely hijack this board, now that there are a few people interested, let’s
talk preliminaries via email. as soon as I get a sec, I’ll shoot out some emails.
Note that I’m not aiming to be king of this mountain. I’m just trying to get some
movement going on so that Yogani has more time to do what he does and there are
enough people to fill the gap that no one person has to serve as gap filler.
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “obsidian9999” <obsidian9999@y…> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Yes, with a group helping, and with the workload fairly light, I’d
> be happy to help too…
>
> We need moderator guidelines, definitely.
>
>
>
> — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Near
> >
> > Awesome! I’ll drop you an email. It’d be best if we could have a
> group moderating, rather
> > than an individual. A few
> > reasons: individuals get busy, go away, lose interest, get stuck
> about about being king of
> > the
> > hill, etc. So it’s GREAT you want to help (I’ll help, too). Anyone
> else? This forum could get
> > really active (hope it does…what a great resource it could be!).
> We’ll need all the help we
> > can get. I’m NOT talking about tons of time. If you can add just a
> few minutes to your daily
> > “practice” to meta practice (do practice to help the practice),
> that’d be awesome!
> >
> > As for the geeks, the first thing we could use is a new forum site
> (and we could then
> > choose to put the lessons there as well - I’m pretty sure Yogani
> supports “mirroring” of the
> > lessons on multiple sites; it’ll help ensure their preservation).
> Decent forum software
> > would mean we could have multiple discussion boards for multiple
> subjects, so it’s not all
> > blended together (e.g. this sort of thread wouldn’t disrupt the
> practice talk). If anyone out
> > there has opinions, don’t just opine from your zafu! Help out!
> Don’t be passive! Yogani
> > wrote it, now let’s do something with it!
> >
> > Re: publicity, you say " If there is anything that we could
> collectively do…" Well, that’s
> > what we need to plan! Stuff doesn’t just happen! First step is to
> gather people who care
> > about this stuff and want to help do something. Next step is to
> discuss ideas. Then do it.
> >
> >
> > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Jim,
> > >
> > > I am willing to moderate the group as per yogani’s guidelines.
> > > Coming to the publicity thing, all of us i think have been doing
> > > that individually already. If there is anything that we could
> > > collectively do, that will be good.
> > >
> > > If there are some computer geeks here who could help us build a
> more
> > > attractive website for www.advancedyogapractices.com i feel that
> > > would go a long way in giving publicity. Just my 2 cents
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Near
> > >
> > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I had Yogani’s permission to post a query. I was concerned he
> > > might be overextended, and
> > > > he is indeed doing lots at once. And he’s written in the
> lessons
> > > about hoping we’ll
> > > > establish a horizontal network. This isn’t about him, it’s
> about
> > > the teachings, and if we
> > > > don’t work to publicize them and foster a community for
> > > discussing/supporting them,
> > > > nobody else will…and they’ll fade and die. Yogani wrote the
> > > lessons, for which I’m real
> > > > grateful. He did his part, let’s do ours!
> > > >
> > > > None of this is a momentous big job or huge undertaking of
> > > responsibility. We can divvy
> > > > up (easy) tasks. If anyone’s interested, please email me. If we
> > > have a crew in place, maybe
> > > > we can get these great teachings more out there…and get this
> > > forum up to critical mass
> > > > (we have some great, experienced, interesting people, but could
> > > use a more!).
> > > >
> > > > Oh, and moderation is essential for high quality online
> > > discussion. Without it, talk
> > > > invariably degenertaes into flame wars (angry fights),
> > > commerciality, and digression. Yes,
> > > > even in yoga forums!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think most of us would be ready to volunteer and moderate
> this
> > > > > group. But as kathy as pointed out the question is of level-
> > > > > headedness. I think yogani might himself request for our help
> > > when
> > > > > he feels we might do a good job.
> > > > >
> > > > > One observation i want to make is that after the moderation
> > > started
> > > > > recently, group activity became a bit less. Ofcourse
> moderation
> > > has
> > > > > done good things too.
> > > > >
> > > > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “Kathy” <nagoyasea@y…>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to
> finish
> > > his
> > > > > > novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this
> summer.
> > > If
> > > > > some
> > > > > > level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist
> in
> > > > > > moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path
> in
> > > > > > general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to
> > > meetings or
> > > > > > groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it.
> > > It’s
> > > > > an
> > > > > > easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some
> > > interest
> > > > > > pick it up and some ask questions or start a
> > > conversation…that
> > > > > > way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Light and Love,
> > > > > > Kathy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > > > > > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt
> > > work
> > > > > to
> > > > > > keep everything going.
> > > > > > > He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about
> the
> > > > > > practices, handling the book
> > > > > > > publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering
> > > his
> > > > > > considerable wisdom and
> > > > > > > experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not
> a
> > > > > young
> > > > > > man, and I share his
> > > > > > > concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he
> > > does.
> > > > > That
> > > > > > can only happen if
> > > > > > > some of us step up and help out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I
> figured
> > > I’d
> > > > > > take the first step. I think
> > > > > > > most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent
> writing
> > > > > > lessons and advising via
> > > > > > > email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > beautiful thing he’s created
> > > > > > > and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and
> commercialism
> > > and
> > > > > all
> > > > > > that, process new
> > > > > > > registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved
> > > off,
> > > > > etc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these
> > > > > practices,
> > > > > > I gain appreciation for
> > > > > > > their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could
> > > > > experience
> > > > > > what we’re
> > > > > > > experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the
> > > message
> > > > > > out there…and we, the
> > > > > > > first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m
> not
> > > > > > suggesting banging drums in
> > > > > > > airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to
> connect
> > > > > these
> > > > > > methods with the
> > > > > > > countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish
> someone
> > > had
> > > > > > told ME about them
> > > > > > > sooner!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > None of the above requires any level of spiritual
> > > attainment! So
> > > > > > even if you’re a lurker here
> > > > > > > who’s never said a word, and are just launching your
> > > journey -
> > > > > but
> > > > > > see the value of this
> > > > > > > particular method - and you have skills, connections,
> time,
> > > or
> > > > > > other assets that might help
> > > > > > > with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot
> me
> > > an
> > > > > > email).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your
> yoga
> > > > > > friends know about this
> > > > > > > practice. So many folks are working on asana these days,
> and
> > > > > > missing all this good stuff.
> > > > > > > Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the
> > > better a
> > > > > > world we’ll have to live in!
569 From: “azaz932001” <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:01pm
Subject: Re: Helping AYP azaz932001
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Hi there
On the point about making the main sight more attractive I would like
to just say please keep it simple remember not everybody has
broadband. The sight as it is loads quickly and easily, fancy sights
take a long time to load for anyone on a dial up connection, and
people who stumble upon it while searching Yoga are likely to get
bored with waiting and just cut it off exactly the opposite thing too
what we want.
Blessings R.C.
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I am willing to moderate the group as per yogani’s guidelines.
> Coming to the publicity thing, all of us i think have been doing
> that individually already. If there is anything that we could
> collectively do, that will be good.
>
> If there are some computer geeks here who could help us build a
more
> attractive website for www.advancedyogapractices.com i feel that
> would go a long way in giving publicity. Just my 2 cents
>
> Love,
> Near
>
> — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I had Yogani’s permission to post a query. I was concerned he
> might be overextended, and
> > he is indeed doing lots at once. And he’s written in the lessons
> about hoping we’ll
> > establish a horizontal network. This isn’t about him, it’s about
> the teachings, and if we
> > don’t work to publicize them and foster a community for
> discussing/supporting them,
> > nobody else will…and they’ll fade and die. Yogani wrote the
> lessons, for which I’m real
> > grateful. He did his part, let’s do ours!
> >
> > None of this is a momentous big job or huge undertaking of
> responsibility. We can divvy
> > up (easy) tasks. If anyone’s interested, please email me. If we
> have a crew in place, maybe
> > we can get these great teachings more out there…and get this
> forum up to critical mass
> > (we have some great, experienced, interesting people, but could
> use a more!).
> >
> > Oh, and moderation is essential for high quality online
> discussion. Without it, talk
> > invariably degenertaes into flame wars (angry fights),
> commerciality, and digression. Yes,
> > even in yoga forums!
> >
> >
> >
> > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “nearoanoke” <nearoanoke@y…>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think most of us would be ready to volunteer and moderate
this
> > > group. But as kathy as pointed out the question is of level-
> > > headedness. I think yogani might himself request for our help
> when
> > > he feels we might do a good job.
> > >
> > > One observation i want to make is that after the moderation
> started
> > > recently, group activity became a bit less. Ofcourse moderation
> has
> > > done good things too.
> > >
> > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “Kathy” <nagoyasea@y…> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very good ideas Jim and Karma!
> > > >
> > > > I’ve wondered how Yogani manages it all, plus trying to
finish
> his
> > > > novel that is (hopefully) going to be published this summer.
> If
> > > some
> > > > level-headed person or two or three volunteered to assist in
> > > > moderating the group it would save him some chunk of time.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding promoting the book, website, forum and this path in
> > > > general: One thing I’ve done is bring Yogani’s book to
> meetings or
> > > > groups I attend and I leave it out where people can see it.
> It’s
> > > an
> > > > easy way to catch people’s attention. Those who have some
> interest
> > > > pick it up and some ask questions or start a
> conversation…that
> > > > way I don’t feel like I’m forcing anything on anyone…
> > > >
> > > > Light and Love,
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > — In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “jim_and_his_karma”
> > > > <jim_and_his_karma@y…> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As many of you know, Yogani is having to do lots of grunt
> work
> > > to
> > > > keep everything going.
> > > > > He’s moderating this forum, trying to get word out about
the
> > > > practices, handling the book
> > > > > publishing, and (as most of you know) generously offering
> his
> > > > considerable wisdom and
> > > > > experience to all comers via email. What’s more, he’s not a
> > > young
> > > > man, and I share his
> > > > > concern that these wonderful practices not fade when he
> does.
> > > That
> > > > can only happen if
> > > > > some of us step up and help out.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, as one of the biggest loudmouths on the forum, I
figured
> I’d
> > > > take the first step. I think
> > > > > most of us would agree Yogani’s time is better spent
writing
> > > > lessons and advising via
> > > > > email, rather than acting as publicist and forum janitor
for
> the
> > > > beautiful thing he’s created
> > > > > and we enjoy. So…is anyone interested in helping:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. moderate this forum (stave off fights and commercialism
> and
> > > all
> > > > that, process new
> > > > > registrants, haggle with people whose postings are staved
> off,
> > > etc
> > > > >
> > > > > and/or
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. getting the word out about AYP? Every day I do these
> > > practices,
> > > > I gain appreciation for
> > > > > their ingenuity. It would be great if more people could
> > > experience
> > > > what we’re
> > > > > experiencing, but that won’t happen without pushing the
> message
> > > > out there…and we, the
> > > > > first generation of practitioners, need to step up! I’m not
> > > > suggesting banging drums in
> > > > > airports! There are uncreepy, unevangelical ways to
connect
> > > these
> > > > methods with the
> > > > > countless people who’d absolutely love them. I wish someone
> had
> > > > told ME about them
> > > > > sooner!
> > > > >
> > > > > None of the above requires any level of spiritual
> attainment! So
> > > > even if you’re a lurker here
> > > > > who’s never said a word, and are just launching your
> journey -
> > > but
> > > > see the value of this
> > > > > particular method - and you have skills, connections, time,
> or
> > > > other assets that might help
> > > > > with the above - please reply (or, if you’re shy, shoot me
> an
> > > > email).
> > > > >
> > > > > And even if you don’t reply, make an effort to let your
yoga
> > > > friends know about this
> > > > > practice. So many folks are working on asana these days,
and
> > > > missing all this good stuff.
> > > > > Point them to it! The more consciousness is raised, the
> better a
> > > > world we’ll have to live in!
571 From: “jim_and_his_karma” <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:33pm
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Attention all: If you want input, join the crew and help make things happen! Along the way,
you get to determine HOW it happens! Whoever works most gets most say! that’s one of
the perqs!
But don’t worry, RC…all message board software loads well on slow connections, unless
dolled up with a bunch of photos and stuff (and no reason for that!)
— In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, “azaz932001” <richardchamberlin14@h…> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi there
> On the point about making the main sight more attractive I would like
> to just say please keep