Help me with energy causing spasm

Hey, I know what you are talking about. It’s not spasms for me, it starts with heartburn. If I get it bad enough, anywhere I pay attention to in my body/energy body will burn with pain. I’ve learnt how to switch awareness off the body and energy body, but I have zero idea on how to describe it or how to do it. Anyway, the more attention you give it, makes it worse( as you already know).

The spasms came back. Now out of meditation. Movements very similar to the previous ones. Automatic yoga movement. It basically starts with my breathing, which is already out of control. It loses control until it sucks up all the air and inflates the whole lung, after that happens the movement. My body starts to shake and I let the air out of my lungs. Sometimes there is an unbearable headache, but it lasts little.
There is nothing to say, this is happening the same things as before. Automatic yoga
As it happens, I feel the blockages I have in my brain being eliminated. The feeling is good. It’s like I have a lot of energy in my body, and a little in my head. Therefore the body itself tries to balance everything, causing the flow of energy to go to the head.
In one of my kriyas, the hearing improved. As if you had deleted a lock
I do not know what to do, do I ignore them or let them come?
I long for your answers ^^.

As said, what you experience is automatic pranayama/yoga. It comes of your attention on the breath. You can let it happen or stop it, it is your choice. Of-course we have to get used to it if we never experienced this before, but this is you, the energy.
Important is to ground, have social contacts, do something for someone else. Do not over-analyse yourself…
I speak from own experience, if you have time, lay down on the floor and let it happen, surrender to the automatic yoga. After some time of enjoying, stand up and go out into the world. Get to know yourself.
And important, start a short daily practice and self-pace, like written above. You received all you need here, time to relax, read some and enjoy your practice. You are in a transformational phase, it all will smooth out, you get used to it and life goes on.
:pray:

I subscribe to Charliedog’s advice - if the spasms are not too uncomfortable, let them happen.
There is no quick fix, but once you stop fighting them, one day you will find you can live with them, then they will get less and less, till one day they will stop appearing altogether.

The ups and downs are also a sign of overload. You must adjust your meditation practice so that you keep these symptoms at a manageable level. Yogani calls it “the art of cleaning the house without raising too much dust”. Sometimes it’s easier to do, sometimes it’s more difficult. You are facing a bit of a challenge now, but it will get better.

I think the reason these moves happened again is because yesterday I ran a lot. I was just doing long walks, but yesterday I raced a lot when I went hiking. Do you think that could be it?

It is possible. I think I already wrote in a post above that intense physical effort stimulates the energy.
The symptoms happen because you are at the edge already - a little bit of extra stimulation and you’ve crossed into overload. You need to give self-pacing a thought - reduce yoga practice or take a break from if for a few day. And engage in grounding activities.

Hey Delfos,
Yes it sounds like we had similar symptoms. Sometime the spasms would be very intense and sometimes happened after I was finished sitting if I brought my attention to the blockage. When it first started happened it worried me a lot, but now I know it was just my body doing what it needed to release a blockage.
I found that running also made it worse afterwards and that hiking was very helpful. Also a gentle yoga asana class helps me also. For me I still have some automatic yoga but I have grown used to it and I just try to let them happen. They will pass and there is usually and nice feeling when they release.
Your body knows what it needs to do, you just need to sit and let it happen!
:pray:

Is it preferable for me to meditate before walking, or after?
AnotherYogi: Good to know that this will happen, but I want it to pass soon. This disrupts my performance in school and personal life.

I have a doubt. how will I become in the future making use of this meditation? Am I going to have the power of attention I had before? or will I involute at that point?

You will have better power of attention, metal focus, memory etc. than you had before. You need to find a steady routine and a good balance in daily life, and improvements will happen very gradually over the months and years.
Walking after meditation (after you’ve had the 10 minute rest of course) can help integrate the energy. But if it suits you better to have a walk before your meditation, that shouldn’t be a problem. It is strenuous exercise that is not recommended right before sitting practices.

Will this really happen? because before the problems appeared I was exceptionally well. with an absolute mental power.

It’s hard to improve on the absolute. :slight_smile:
What I can say is that people report improved mental abilities as a result of consistent meditation practice.

Hi Delfos,
You are going through a process of transformation. At the end, you will find yourself at another level, in another state of equilibrium. It will be different than the one you had before all this started to happen. It took you time to get here, it took time to start getting spasms, so it is normal to take some time to get better. From time to time you might still have spasms, and this is normal. Things take time to change.
The fact that your attention is different shows that this transformation involves not only the body, but also the mind. You are changing like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly! Something to keep in mind: The AYP lessons are verified by the experience of hundreds of practitioners. Most of them go through this transformation without a lot of difficulties. You may want to read the lessons and learn the practices gradually, for a easier journey.
Best wishes.

Hi Delfos,
You have received very good advice from others already.
Spasms are a symptom of kundalini that some people experience from time-to-time. As you mentioned, it often only happens when the attention becomes focussed, so avoiding this can prevent the spasms from happening, or can make them happen less.
Gradually, over time, the spasms will turn into a trembling sensation in the body and from there will turn into a light vibration. At some point they will become ecstatic and very pleasurable. The ecstasy will often be localised at first, but will gradually expand to include the whole body and will expand from there beyond the body. Other transformations will take place as well as the process unfolds.
Just to mention, the meditation technique that you described, where the attention is moved around the body, is not necessarily a safe one and people do often experience issues with it, such as the issue you are describing here. It could be advisable not to go back to that. There are much safer forms of meditation. In general, a full-scope yoga practice which incorporates all eight-limbs, is the safest and easiest path to follow.
Be patient with yourself and take the time needed to integrate what has happened in the past and move forwards from there.
It will be alright! :slight_smile:
Christi

I’m having these tremors described by Christi. Only I have a doubt:
I was meditating, and suddenly my feet began to shake, spreading all over my leg. I at first stopped the mantra, and began to pay attention to my leg. But later the question came to me: should I stop or not with the mantra?
I mean, what am I supposed to do in this situation? Stop with the mantra and watch the movement, or ignore it and continue meditation?

https://www.aypsite.org/15.html
There you find the appropriate method how to deal with those kind of situations…
Here is an excerpt from this lesson:
Sometimes physical discomfort can happen during meditation. This is usually a symptom of the release of obstructions in the nervous system. If it interferes with the easy process of meditation, then pause with the mantra and allow the attention to be drawn to the physical discomfort. Just be with it for a while. Usually, this will dissolve the discomfort naturally. Once it does, go back to the mantra and continue your meditation until your time is up. Count the time you spent with your attention on the physical discomfort as part of your meditation time. If the sensation does not dissolve, lie down for while, until the sensation subsides. It is a good thing. A big obstruction is going. Let it go easily, naturally. The same procedure applies if you are overcome with a barrage of overbearing thoughts, which may or may not be accompanied by physical sensations. If you can’t easily go back to the mantra, just be with the thoughts until they dissipate enough so you can easily pick up the mantra again. Remember, meditation is not a fight with physical or mental activity we may have. These are all symptoms of the release of obstructions from deep in the nervous system. We just let them go. Our job is to follow the easy procedure of thinking the mantra and allowing the process of inner cleansing to happen. This is not a war on the level of the conscious mind. You can never win it that way. We are working from the inside, within and beyond the subconscious mind. In order to do this we must allow the natural ability of the mind to take us in. So learn to think the mantra easily, and let it go in.
All the best :pray:

I was walking and suddenly I started reciting the mantra automatically in my mind. I interrupted when I realized. What I did is correct? is not clearly the mantra, but one of the ways in which it appears in my meditation.
The ayp method is good for those who have adhd?
I always had a vision, from meditation as a way of developing intelligence, the ayp method helps at that point?

We practice two times a day deep meditation. We never use the mantra outside the practice. You were correct to stop it.
Those who have the diagnose ADHD and can have the discipline to practice daily will for sure benefit, this is because AYP calms the mind.
AYP is a methode to purify the whole system. With daily practice we remove the veils of ignorance. All becomes available, All is in us. Love, Wisdom and many more qualities.
If we practice daily, in time we develop the quality to focus, one pointed concentration (dharana). One of the benefits of dharana is, you can study without the mind continuously running from here to there while you are trying to concentrate.
:pray:

Have I completed 1 month of meditation for 10 minutes? Can I do it for 15 minutes now?

Hello Delfos
Good to hear from you.
That’s great. Have you been doing 10 minutes once a day or 10 minutes twice a day?