Embodying the light

23. Other Systems and Alternate Approaches
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In form immanent, we have the kundalini, telepathic communications, wisdom downloads, consciousness refinement, awareness enhancement, head and heart merging, thought cessation, visit to different realms and bliss enablement apart from other wonderful experiences such as becoming the breath of God breathing all forms or knowing that the universe is actually within our consciousness.

In deeper meditational immersions, all manifestations disappear, space and time too vanish and we have samadhi (passive oneness) and then recognition of Self as living light in singularity dwelling in ineffable peace, with full freedom and feeling no lack. Within singularity too, identityless presence has further recognitions, for example, being the luminous darkness of Brahman, motionless and all pervading.

In as the journey applies to me, my question is: how may the recognised transcendent Self be embodied in active awareness, whilst in body-mind immanent, in an unbroken continuum?

The closest hint Iā€™ve gotten to are in the 40 verses on self-realisation called Ulladu Narpadu, originally penned in Tamil language by Ramana Maharishi and elaborated beautifully in 37 lectures by Swami Ramanacharna Tirtha, which fortunately are in English.

Iā€™ll be happy to get inputs on this to help me along.

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Hi Unseekingseeker,

Im interpreting this as

ā€˜how can I attain permanent abidance in samadhi, free from identification with undulations of the mind whilst in human form?ā€™

Am I correct?

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@ Tom ~ yes and no, since samadhi is our becoming the bliss flame as one without a second but without freedom, meaning we cannot exit it consciously, since no one else is there and we have ā€˜disappearedā€™, whereas on recognition of Self as living light, we have full operable freedom. That is the fundamental difference.

However, since Self is seen directly outside space-time, that remains only as a memory (* that is, we are back to mind) and not as being-ness in active cognition.

Perhaps there are different terms employed for types of samadhi and depths of penetration. That does not matter. What is relevant is that of course we have been, seen and so known in definitiveness but now wish to assimilate what has been imbibed, as a permanent embodiment of being, just like our heartbeat or breath.

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Hi UnseekingSeeker,

The state of samadhi you are describing is that of nirvikalpa samadhi. But, there is a higher form of samadhi called sahaja samadhi, which means ā€œnaturally/ spontaneously arising samadhiā€. In this state of samadhi, there is knowledge of the true Self (we know ourselves to be That), and That includes all. In this state of samadhi there is the ability to fully function in the world, fully embodied in form, whist knowing (seeing directly) that this form is actually formless and is not separate in any way from That that we are.

There is actually nothing that we need to do in order for this state of sahaja samadhi to arise, other than continue with our daily practice. The practice of Samyama does speed-up the process of dissolving into That which we are, in sahaja samadhi, because Samyama involves releasing sutras into silence, and a great deal of this final stage process involves releasing things (eventually everything) into silence. The self-inquiry practices such as those taught by Ramana Maharshi, are also designed to speed-up this process of dissolution.

I recorded a short video for YouTube a while ago where I talk about how this process happens. That is here:

What is Non-Duality (Advaita) - Video on YouTube

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Hi Unseeking seeker,

When realization is genuineā€”when awakening truly occursā€”it does not come and go. It requires no questioning and no effort; it is as natural and effortless as breathing. This is why, in AYP, we do not place emphasis on spiritual experiences, regarding them instead as secondary. No matter how expansive or beautiful an experience may be, it still arises within the realm of subject and object.

We live with two aspects of ourselves: the Divine and the human. The human continues to unfold and evolve through the changing circumstances of life, while the Self may rest quietly in the foreground or recede gently into the background, depending on what is unfolding in our outer world.

This is the true gift of awakeningā€”the steady warmth/knowing that never departs, regardless of circumstance. Because of this, there is no need to question its continuity. It simply is.

Sunyata.:folded_hands:t4:

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Thank you, Tristan, Iā€™ll have a look at your video.

Sunyata, thanks for your inputs. Perhaps resting in silence (meditation) is the way and at the optimal time, the rose will blossom automatically.

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Tristan, Iā€™ve browsed through the Samyama practice and it more or less seems to be what I have been already doing intuitively, in as embrace and release. Have you made any specific video on this?

I was inspired to pen this poem, after reflection:

The pathless path

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To assimilate knowing we have imbibed,

ingraining the truth as our reflex instinct,

the vibration must be on our heart inscribed,

by Godā€™s hand Himself indelibly there inked.

On our part, igniting the spark of intent,

doing nothing save granting bliss beats consent,

no longer by thoughts decoyed, we roam the void,

aflame in light of Self, pure and unalloyed.

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Hi UnseekingSeeker,

Samyama was also a practice that I discovered intuitively fairly early on my path. I have filmed a video for Youtube on this practice which is here.

I have also filmed a 5-week video course on the practice which is here:

There is also an excellent book on the topic of Samyama by Yogani which can be found here.

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Hmmm ~ it seems universal consciousness guides us all in a manner optimal for us, reaffirming my conviction that my orientation of surrender and abiding in stillness is ideal for me at least.

Iā€™m grateful for the links you have provided and will certainly go through them.

God bless!

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Yes, agree :+1:t3:

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Hi UnseekingSeeker,

I would be careful about jumping to that conclusion too fast. Over the last 40 years what I have noticed is that most people are not guided by universal consciousness in a manner that is optimal for them. In truth, I have never seen anyone guided by universal consciousness at all. What I have seen is that universal consciousness does not move, or change, or guide.

What I have seen instead is that most people try to make the best of what they come accross, which can be pretty much anything. There is a great deal of distraction involved, and most people who start out on the spiritual path, fall from it at some point. We are living in an age where there is very little support for most people spiritually.

I hope that in the future this will be different. I hope that one day spiritual support and guidance will be as available as things like healthcare, and being guided to the right path will be normal for most people.

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I would have to differ on this view Tristan simply because in my case, knowing no path, all I did upon realising the futility of seeking the eternal in the external ephemeral, was to go in within, meaning resting in silence and surrender, whereupon with clear telepathic messages and guidance in broad daylight, kundalini activation, bliss enablement in permanence, grace thus positioning me in all time meditation by the magnetic bliss current, ego definitely thinned out (though some vasanas or residual tendencies remain) various types of samadhi and oneness experiences were facilitated spontaneously, karma erased and the Self recognised in plain sight.

How did this come about without volition? I would say, by ceasing to resist and handing over the baton to universal consciousness or God. The knowings enabled are definitive and free from doubt because I have been, seen and so known. The becoming-ness, the transmutation is an ongoing process, which is simply witnessed in wonderment and astonishment, rooted in deep trust.

There is no doubt that lower mind (ego) still questions and so I visit different forums, chat with a few advanced spiritual friends I know, even if their paths are a bit different, read scriptures, hear out discourses and so forth but at the core, I know all is being enabled automatically. Perhaps this trust itself is an invocation, an orientation, a practice, to which universal consciousness responds.

About Brahman or universal consciousness or God being unmoving, it appears so because where would omnipresence move if it is already everywhere and pervading everything? However, we can take a half step back and view God as both the unmanifest as well as manifest. There is no paradox and once we see this as formless awareness, in duality with identity and in singularity without, then this bilocation, so to speak, rests all doubt.

That said, body decays, life tests and ego thinks in the human experience. However we know clearly we are not this organic form but rather eternal living light of Self, a God-spark within, our luminosity veiled temporarily by membranes of delusion yet to to be burnt off.

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There is no doubt that lower mind (ego) still questions and so I visit different forums, chat with a few advanced spiritual friends I know, even if their paths are a bit different, read scriptures, hear out discourses and so forth but at the core, I know all is being enabled automatically. Perhaps this trust itself is an invocation, an orientation, a practice, to which universal consciousness responds.

Hi UnseekingSeeker,

This can appear to be the case from the perspective of duality. But once we know the nature of our true Self, as non-dual unbounded awareness, then this no longer appears to be the case. Then we see clearly that universal consciousness is always not acting. It does not guide, does not move. There is no longer any subject, or object. Form is always of the mind. Reality is formless. So, the appearance of movement is always an appearance created by the mind alone.

When this realisation dawns, and becomes permanent, there are no longer any questions. There is no possibility of doubt arising. There is no longer any need to read scriptures, or listen to spiritual discourses. There is only freedom, bliss, unity and divine love. Everything becomes very simple. More simple than the mind could ever imagine.

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Hi UnseekingSeeker,

p.s.

This is not to say that there is no value in believing in the existence of a higher power, or surrendering to that higher power, or believing that this higher power will guide you. All of those things are very useful spiritual practices. It is simply to say that at some stage, if we are doing that, then we will see clearly that none of that was actually true.

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Tristan, what can I say? I have been very specific about the steps of realisation, both dual and non-dual and what it is. Simply saying that it is very simple and motionless does not get us anywhere in a discussion.

I have no point to prove so Iā€™ll rest this thread for now. My line of inquiry was simply on how we may assimilate the truth we have imbibed or recognised or as Swami Lakshmanjoo said, ā€˜with every breath the universe appears and disappearsā€™ ~ an unbroken awareness continuum, a flicker-free flame.

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Hi UnseekingSeeker,

When I said that reality is motionless and very simple, this was not with the intent of ā€œgetting anywhere in a discussionā€. These are pointers, pointing at the nature of truth itself. Liberation is not about proving a point. Liberation comes when there are no longer any points to prove, when words become still. Then only truth remains and that truth becomes fully assimilated and embodied.

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