During DM we basically know that energy travels upwards. Is there any risk that sex function can be hindered this way, i.e. reduce erections? I read that sex function relies on energy being low, i.e. to the lower chakras, so theoretically, if energy goes up then it could interfere with sex function. Can this be correct? Anyone can elaborate on it?
Thank you,
CK
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No, thats not correct. All things with spirituality are an expansion of existing abilities.
Yes, I understand but with spirituality rising we get many physical symptoms like bloated stomach, i.e. hindered digestion, etc, which nobody can deny this, as well as other physiological abnormalities, like pressure in the head, etc, thus it may be also valid to deduce that we may get abnormality in sexual function, at least while someone is on the path.
Just my own really thought on the topic. Any additional discussion, or points made to this I’ d appreciate.
Thanks,
CK.
I think there can be temporary variations, but tantric sex kinda says it all.
But don’t assume orgasms will always be in the same place. . .
I think it’s hardly possible to make love hour after hour without allowing the energy to oscillate, just like you can’t make a long mountain hike without ascents and descents…
Based on my own experience sex, like everything else, has only gotten better as my spiritual practice deepens. My male partner also has found that yoga/meditation has had a very positive effect on sexual function.
Any energetic shift or process that one experiences will commonly have a deep emotional counterpart causing an array of emotional, spiritual and physiological experiences. Deepened on the emotional undercurrents taking place this could cause a positive or negative outcome in ones life and in ones sexuality and sexual function. It is different for everyone
I see. I take this that any repressed emotions will come up to the surface and cause corresponding good, or bad effects which may also interfere with sexuality, at least in a temporary perspective, perhaps until cleared. These do involve Kundalini symptoms, I presume which can cause chaos to one’ s physiological and emotional state, thus, I’ d presume again, that indeed it may be dangerous someone lose sexuality as well as sexual function due to the stresses on the body due to K. symptoms?
Also, isn’ t it a fact, that with spirituality rising there is a high risk of losing libido, i.e. losing the sexual desire, and/ or function, since at least this is what is written in spiritual texts, I have read someone may reach a level so passive they’ d have no desire, or lust for sexual intercourse and we also hear this from a lot of monks who remain celibate quite for a lifetime, i.e. and thus, at some point on being easy for them to do so?
So, I’d seriously conclude there is a high risk of losing complete and total sexuality which may not be what we are actually bargaining for, as people generally would prefer they increase libido and not lose it all together. In other words, if someone ends up indifferent to whether they see in front of them a man, or a woman (depending on their sex/ gender), then I’ d say that this is not really a good outcome, at least for those who are not ready
CK.
Chrisk, on the one hand it is true, as Kahlia points out, that people have different experiences of this and yes, there can be temporary disruptions in your sex life as well as other physiological and emotional disturbances along the spiritual path. However, having said that, with regard to the “spiritual texts” that you mention, this gets into a discussion which we had in another post regarding the misinterpretation of “bramacharya” which is all too prevalent in mainstream yoga, namely that sexuality is to be ignored, repressed or transcended. I completely refute that and so does AYP. Rather, sexual energy is a valuable element of our yoga practice and who we are as embodied spiritual beings. The desire or “lust” does evolve, as all our desires, to serve bhakti. In the course of this process there may be temporary loss of libido but that is not the ultimate outcome. Nor is “celibacy” from a yogic standpoint the absence of sex or libido; I can say this with some confidence, having been happily “celibate” for most of 14 years until I met my partner 6 years ago. In yoga everything is offered up, everything including sexuality becomes part of our spiritual practice. Libido when surrendered to bhakti becomes more intense and more satisfying. The goal is not to eliminate sex but to take it to another level. Yoga done properly leads eventually to wholeness, not dysfunction. See lesson T22: http://www.aypsite.org/T22.html
Chrisk,
JamieRadha explained it very well…you may want to check the other thread she mentionned
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10046
Let thine eye be single and thy whole body shall be full of Light
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I am talking msotly about advanced male practitioners and not so much for beginners.
Depends on how you treat orgasms, male orgasm is far more complicated in spirituality than female orgasm.
Chrisk, my male partner may be a “beginner” in terms of length of time doing the practice, but in terms of results I think his experience is relevant. He has been meditating for many years. He’s been doing tantra for about 8 months and retaining his life force for weeks or more at a time for about 2 months. He has also begun experiencing vajroli along with kundalini rushes up the spine (i.e., orgasm turned upward) for a couple of weeks. Thus far, all of this has had a very positive effect on his sexual function! Keep in mind, however, my partner has always regarded sex as sacred and therefore has no emotional/spiritual block that might interfere with the process. If you happen to be one of the many people who has been deluded into believing that sex is un-spiritual, then it might not go as smoothly for you.
Hmmm how so, what is your thinking behind this thought? How does one determine such a thing?
My thoughts are both the male and female orgasm are just as “spiritual” as each other.
Hello,
I see, I beleive 2 months is a short time frame for such practices. Anyways, as for the un-spirituality of sex, it is not entirely true, there must exist some blocks in regard to sexuality, I think it is just one way of giving direction to this spiritual power as you mention it.
Hmmm how so, what is your thinking behind this thought? How does one determine such a thing?
My thoughts are both the male and female orgasm are just as “spiritual” as each other.
Male orgasm is more demanding energetically, more Yang. CK.
Ah I see- thank you for clarifying.