One last thing that you might already know, press your tongue on palate to close down a bio-energy circuit so excess energy will flow down. Depending where pressing on palate area, you’ll close Ida, Pingali, ajna, throat… It is just the basis of kechari mudra without any body modification (frenum cut)
Hi CarsonZi,
Don’t worry, I enjoy reading everything cause I learn from all of you.
Time ago I was a vegetarian, just one year, but when I began to eat meat again, I felt terrible, with a lot of nausea, and headaches, and lots of digestive troubles, the bad symptoms lasted for months.
Now I am a meat lover, it helps a lot the grounding process, at least in my case, but the energy when working a lot, make us leave the meat a little bit, cause lately I only eat fish or chicken, and twice a week red meat. Well to meat lover I refer the beef, cause the fish and chicken, are like nothing to my stomach. But when I was a vegetarian, I didn’t take any meat.
The same with caffeine, before I took 7 cans of cokes per day, now I only take 2 or three, like if my body asks more for water than other things.
Very strange that I have never liked milk, but now my body asks for it, and I almost drink a glass of milk every day, it never happened before, I think its the energy.
Does anyone knows why the energy urges us to eat or drink something that before we didn’t like ?
Sat Nam
Neli
Forgot to mention about grounding diet: meat as you’ve found out but also curd, honey & garlic !
I have found also that the energy consumes lots of sugar, be it choclolate, (that Shakti loves a lot), and of course honey.
neli
Shanti
A couple of days ago while in meditation I felt like a tube on the top of my head, a big one, then I began to feel a shower of energy downpouring, it was wonderful, I felt this 3 times, was very ecstatic, like an orgasm, I felt flying on the stars, it was so intense, but the next day, a kind of pain was in one of my kidneys, or liver, lasted all day, was not so hard, but it bothered a little bit, and next day it was gone! I have never had problems with kidneys or liver, I thought it was the excess of energy, but it downpoured till my feet, I didn’t felt Shakti climbing.
Maybe I’m wrong, cause I think that when Shiva comes, there is his energy,(or a cosmic one) not ours, and when Shakti climbs its part of our energy and its hard and consuming for us.
Its the first time that I feel an orgasm on the crown, its wonderful. better than the heart, or maybe more intense. I wonder if there are ecstasies on the astral plane, (above the crown or beyond) cause its supossed that we have nadis right there.
Thanks a lot
Sat Nam
Neli
Also please read up Lesson 199 - Managing the opening of the crown for some more info.
Beautiful experience Neli.
It feels like the Gods are showering their blessing on you, doesn’t it? ![]()
Enjoy it when it happens… but don’t try to make it happen, and/or don’t hold on to the experience. This is just the beginning of many many more awesome crown experiences. Remember to favor your practice always… that is what will lead you to more such blessings. ![]()
Not sure about the pain. If it continues, please get a doctors checkup.
Wish you all the best.
Because kundalini is deconstructing & removing blockages in you which in the first place created pattern that are not existing anymore so you can come closer to the mystery. Same situation with not liking people or activities you use to like & suddenly you don’t want them anymore.
I cooked and ate my first steak ever tonight after getting a two and a half hour full body “energy” massage. I have never felt better or more alive with energy yet perfectly grounded in my whole life. The salt bath and putting my forehead to the ground helped immensly as well I believe. Thank you all for your advice and suggestions. I am feeling a ton better today. Truely a blessing to have a community like this. Thank you all ![]()
Namaste,
CarsonZi
Hi Shanti,
I really enjoy the experience, and don’t try to make it happen, it happens alone, without my help.
I do my practices every day, what I love the most is the Kechari, I feel this is something very important, altough I don’t know how it works, but it reaches the crown easily, the tip of my tongue has always electricity, and its a pleasure to do the Kechari, I don’t know for others, but for me, this is very important.
I think the pain was caused by the excess of energy cause I haven’t felt any pain thereafter. It was so intense that my body resented the pull of energy.
Thanks a lot
Sat Nam
Neli
What I knew is that while the energy works removes blockages, and make us drop many things, sometimes meat, or other things, but to make me drink milk, is very weird, cause I have always hated the milk, maybe my body needs it. I have seen this with activities, all my activities that I used and liked to do are dropped. Like if I were another person, always observing others (and myself), and always wanting to be alone. I wonder if this will last all my life or if its only a process. I can’t stand crowded places and before I liked a lot.
Neli ![]()
Because kundalini is deconstructing & removing blockages in you which in the first place created pattern that are not existing anymore so you can come closer to the mystery. Same situation with not liking people or activities you use to like & suddenly you don’t want them anymore.
CarsonZi
Embracing a tree is also very grounding, or sitting with the back on the trunk, barefooted. I always feel connected to the trees, that’s why I always feel like antennas pouring out from the top of my crown.
Neli
Hey Neli, As I suggested before to CarsonZI, try curd which is the ultimate form of milk for feeding kundalini ![]()
Hi Selfonlypath,
I am not sure if this is the best advice to give to someone experiencing energy overload symptoms. Kechari is a major stimulator of kundalini energy. In the main lessons Yogani describes it as being the same as siddhasana only at the top end of the nervous system. It could potentially send somonw who is already on the brink, over the edge.
Just a warning.
Christi
Thanks for the heads up Christi!
I can’t actually get past stage 1 Kechari anyways, so I doubt it is a big deal for me. It actually helped me a bit I think to just press my tongue into the roof of my mouth. It seemed to help the energy to flow “smoother?” out of the top of my head and back down the front channel. Maybe I was imagining it, but it seemed like it helped some. But thanks for the warning, it won’t go unheeded.
Love,
CarsonZi
Can someone please explain to me why kundalini has anything to do with self-realisation? I cannot find any sources except Vivekananda in “raja yoga” in his section on pranayama saying that kundalini is necessary. As far as i am concerned, the kundalini is a dangerous thing and has nothing to do with transcending body consciousness and self-realisation.
I don’t mean to sound negative (as so often i do!), i am generally interested in why people consider kundalini a necessary part of spirituality.
Gumpi,
You don’t sound negative. Questions are good. They bring about personal experience. In answer to your question of “why (does) kundalini has(have) anything to do with self-realisation?” I would answer you this
You can’t have Self Realization without Kundalini. I personally, and I bet a lot of other AYPers, will tell you that we are not here looking to become Kundalini awakened. We are here seeking Self/God Realization. But along that path to Self Realization, Kundalini Awakening is going to happen. It just happens that way. And it isn’t dangerous (as far as I can tell) if you are properly purified. To seek Self Realization without proper purification is just asking for kudalini awakening problems as far as I can tell based on other people’s experiences (Gopi for example). That’s just the way it is. Can’t have S.R. without Kundalini being awake. You CAN however have an awakened Kundalini and NOT have Self Realization. As Yogani says, “there are many stages of Kundalini awakening”. So don’t worry so much about having dangerous Kundalini symptoms and focus on doing your practices twice daily. Then you can almost gaurantee yourself that even if your Kundalini does awaken, you will be properly purified for it and the symptoms will be minimal. Just my two cents.
In Love,
CarsonZi
Hi,
I haven’t tasted the drinkable curd, is this a kind of coagulated milk ? or is it a kind of cheese to spread on bread. I have tasted the one that spreads on bread and its delicious.
neli ![]()
Hey Neli, As I suggested before to CarsonZI, try curd which is the ultimate form of milk for feeding kundalini ![]()
Gumpi,
If awakened alone (without help or without knowing what’s happening) it could be pretty dangerous, just see Gopi’s case. But if we have love in our hearts and are open to the energy, it could helps a lot in the spiritual path. But many people doesn’t resist the symptoms of the awakening, including my sister that went to the hospital with a panick attack.
I don’t want to sound negative, but the energy always awakens with symptoms, be it whatever. In some people very smooth and in others very hard. But if we use love instead of rejection, everything is different.
Self- Realisation doesn’t have to do with Kundalini, you can have self-realisation without Kundalini. I am also in Jhanas and the self-realisation I picked it from there, and the Kundalini came thereafter.
But after feeling Shakti, I prefer Shakti than anything. I’m in love with Shakti.
Many people have awakened the K and they don’t even know, I mean the artists, writers, poets, etc. That’s why they are very excentric people, like Dalí.
But Kundalini is a real pleasure, one has only to channel it.
Just my 2 cents
Neli
I just have to say that I disagree with you Neli. I don’t think you CAN have REAL(or FULL is maybe a better word) Self Realization without being Kundalini awakened. That was MY understanding of how things worked. I guess I could be wrong,(it does happen from time to time
) but I don’t think you can be fully God Realized without your Kundalini being awake. That is why if you ever see a painting of Christ of or a saint or whatever, they have the classic “Kundalini” glow or halo or whatever around them. I think that is to indicate that anyone with that high of a Self realization will have had their Kundalini awakened. Maybe someone who knows more then me can chime in here though and tell us definitively how it is?
In Love,
CarsonZi
hi neli
your crown opening is the cause of all thoses changes , same with any other newly found desires or capabilities. your practice as brought you to this!Crown opening does carry energie to your physical brain, so brain cell get charged (fed) thus they grow , extend dendrites etc. one morning you’ll wake up after some more crown opening realising you can do thing better anything! math, cooking, see the futures wathever. there is no magic trick involve. The nervous system adapt itself with the new source of energie.i agree with those who say “pace yourself” overflooding your brain is easy,just like turning the knob to much on a garden hose… it will rupture or whoever is around will get a free bath! ![]()
as far as i know what you call the entenna is an extention of your susumna some call this the hara line it goes up and down from the root also.
i experience that also and felt it swing back and forth on some occasions …but that is not a good sign, depression is at hand when this happen.