Jean did you incorporate too many practices at the same time?
Thanks for sharing Jean 
I don’t think I have. Guess once you got the train rolling it doesn’t need so much energy to keep it going like at the beginning.
Energies have settled down so far, but will wait a bit until I pick up the practices again.
I don’t regret it that I got a bit ahead with the energies, I think it’s good to know how far you could go without shooting yourself to the moon and beyond 
I was pretty much at the same place you were dear Jean… But I kept on trying to get back to practices every now and then… And kept on self pacing… What have done me real good is lifting light weighs…
My practice now is very gentle and beautiful. I don’t overdo it though… Don’t want to push my luck just yet…
All I am saying is, keep on trying…
All the best
Love,
Ananda
Thank you, will keep on of course.
All the best to you as well.
Dear Anthem,
I read your thread and thought to offer a potential solution: why not just ask God to show you the way and follow His signs?
This has worked faultlessly for over 30 years now, so I don’t hesitate to recommend it.
All the best.
Dear Anthem
This thread’s popped-up at an interesting time, when I was intending to self-pace back to 5/5 SBP/DM once per day, or only breath meditation or even no formal sitting practice at all - just Bhakti/Karma/Jnana as it arose naturally.
Thank you for starting the thread.
It’s been extremely helpful in helping me to reach a considered decision.
With Love
gatito
Thanks for the recommendation img, that’s pretty much how it works, Life shows the way.
Hi Gatito,
Could be worthwhile for you to stop doing the pranayama entirely and seeing if that allows you to continue with just the meditation and your other practices?
An update:
9 months later and even just a few minutes meditation (of any kind) is still enough for release to occur at a rate that leads to overload. Living without formal practices, there is still “purification” from time to time which continues onwards at a comfortable rate and there is an underlying balance.
One likely contributor to the easily encountered overload which occurred in the past when I was doing AYP sitting practices regularly, was that there was a host of concurrent mental programs running. The mind had become “programmed” to fix itself and it ran those programs likely 24/7. For example, I continuously brought myself back to the here and now consciously, repeatedly brought awareness into the body, repeatedly centered myself in the heart, etc. and there was a large variety of inquiry that was happening at all times. There is a good chance this was a contributor to overload though so much of it wasn’t considered to be a factor at the time.
All these programs have since stopped. There becomes little choice in these actions as the rules change, making the way forward very clear and straightforward. Pain is a persistant teacher. 
Hi Anthem
Thanks for the reply and for the update.
Like you (by the sound of it) I’ve undertaken a lot of spiritual practice in this lifetime, including several thousand hours of formal sitting practice before AYP, so I think that there may a certain momentum that I need to self-pace.
Your thread has by no means put me off AYP. I continue to view this as the most complete, comprehensive and easy-to-follow system that I’ve ever come across. You’ve made a very valuable and valued contribution to my understanding yourself and I’m very grateful.
Thank you.
With Love
My conclusion after seeing so many people here having a hard time with ‘overload’ and experiencing 1st hand myself is that there is a fair amount of repression that is affecting people, I don’t agree that it is simply people experiencing purification and unstressing.
Hi Yogesh
Isn’t repression just another way of describing neurobiological blockages?
I guess, I was leaning more towards some of the practices being repressive.
Now I’m really intrigued…
Can I draw you out…???
Hi Yogesh,
AYP is, just what it says on the box… “Advanced Yoga”. Many of the practices are powerful and need to be handled with caution. That’s what advanced yoga is like. With careful management, and folowing the principles of self-pacing and grounding, it isn’t difficult. Where people come to this forum with problems, they always fall into one of two categories. Either they have been doing some other practice, and are experiencing energy problems and have come here for help, or they have not implemented the practices of self-pacing and grounding properly in their AYP practice. Nearly always, they are steered in the right direction and are able to continue on the path to freedom without any further problems.
Advanced Yoga is not for everyone, it is for those that are ready. But everyone can make themselves ready if they want to, and are willing to take the time and put in the hours. Personally I practised yoga for 20 years before I did one advanced practice. Not everyone needs to spend 20 years preparing themselves to be ready for these practices, as everyone has their own timeline. Recognising that everyone has their own timeline is the important thing. Blaming the practices when the student isn’t ready, or isn’t willing to listen, isn’t going to help anybody.
Christi
Hi Christi,
I disagree with you, and don’t want to go into a lot of detail frankly on the open forum.
Or actually I should say that I ‘cannot’ go into a lot of detail here because it would not be allowed frankly as it would be deemed as critical.
If you want to discuss via email that’s fine, I don’t want to go into detail here.
Hi Yogesh
By all means, let’s continue the discussion via email.
Perhaps you would contact me, as you have no contact details.
Thanks in anticipation.
If you feel they are repressive then don’t do them. That’s what self pacing is all about… Making a decision to cut back to zero if needs be, for as long as it takes. It’s recommended and is implicit in the instructions on AYP.
AYP is considered a powerful practice and can lead to symptoms of overload, if you have those symptoms then self pace. If the symptoms cannot be resolved then stop doing the practices.
It’s difficult to make that much clearer. It’s clearly written in every lesson. Less is more, cut back, stop, do something to ground yourself. There are enough warnings posted to scare off the casual investigator.
But not enough to scare off the madmen enthusiasts who like pushing the edge of the envelope towards what’s humanly possible within the inner dimensions! 
Stay away from those ones…they tend to make some ruffles in the fabricated dollhouses of well-mannered society…
“Do I dare disturb the universe?”
–T.S. Eliot, The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock