Hi alwayson. Ha Ha Ha! Ha Ha Ha Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, alwayson! Surely your jokes alone will make you the stuff of legend!! In the process of your transformation you are emerging as a true trickster god, perhaps even greater than Shiva, as you earlier suggested. When I was out looking for the Lama as you directed, you were composing your swan song for us and getting ready to give more of your self! I was sure your oblique communication to me about the Yeshe energy was a clue as to where I might find my new Lama and some insight into merit. I am sure now, too, that it was a wild goose chase - a ruse on your part, so I would not be distracting you with my adulation, while you composed yourself for the final effort. What a pleasent surprise you prepared for me! - Though I really should be truly ashamed that I’m glad your still here. Truly now there is no need for us to consult the Lama I brought, as you have reached your moment of achievment and have even issued a challange, in the full Knowledge that in your View, You can now never be Mastered and are Infallible. This non-dual unity of martial bearing and spiritual wisdom, alwayson, is a testement to the modesty of your teaching, and the nature of its service. Who could imagine contesting you! That is perhaps your best joke yet!! It is right for you to establish your lineage this way, but I think we need a special thread for your jokes, to insure that the lineage be passed on in a coherent form - if such a thing is imaginable. It could be entitled say, “You are right alwayson and on and on and on…” This would help express the infinite aspect of your approching dignity, and also the reverance you so richly deserve.
I prostrate myself before the infinite compassion and nobility you so clearly express, pray for those closest to you, and for all the other infinite sentient beings from whom you have made yourself distant: for the compassion you have is not of this world.
Why do you not wish to embrace your fellow beings in this world in compassion, as well? Is it not worthwhile?
with hope, divinefurball
Have you been reading the cannabis thread? 
Regarding the yeshe current, you aren’t going to find information on that unless you are reading some hardcore Dzogchen books. Yeshe connects to the sushumna (center channel). And then the sushumna connects to the kati channels.
Hi alwayson. Thank you for responding, I have not read the cannibis thread. But I appreciate your offering more information. Please tell me where I can find the material that shoud be read, and elaborate on all you know. With real appreciation for actual information, divinefurball
borrow from your library “Approaching the Great Perfection” by Sam van Schaik
Hi alwayson. This is excellent. I thank you for the information, and will inter-library loan order it on monday. It will be at least a week before I get it, but that will be fine and give me time to reflect a bit. With best wishes. divinefurball
You can go beyond thought, but you can’t go beyond the mind. Yoga is the cessation of the modifications of the mind. Know that the entire Cosmos is encompassed by Mind.
I thought you were buddhist lolll
Alwayson, You have much to learn. Buddhism is Body-Speech-Mind Yoga. Ultimately, Buddhism is Mind Yoga. The main point of view of both Dzogchen and Mahamudra is that the entire Cosmos is encompassed by Mind. The nature of mind is the unelaborated Dharmakaya. Patanjali’s premise that Yoga is the cessation of mental modifications corresponds directly to the Buddha’s teachings of nonattachment. Lord Jigten Sumgon taught that Vendanta, Agama and Tantra are the foundation of Buddha’s samadhi. The Buddha’s samadhi surpasses them by transcending all concepts and non-concepts of peace, joy, ecstasy, bliss, purity, etc., etc., and acts directly for the benefit of all beings through the dharma-as-such. LOL.
Essentially, the Vedas, Agamas, Sutras and Tantras take the seeker to the door of transcendental wisdom. Non-recognition/non-discrimination takes one through the door, which happens with non-attachment and non-fixation. Then the thoughts disperse like clouds, and dissolve like drops into the water.
BTW. I am not a Buddhist. I am a yogi. My guru is in the lineage of the Buddha Shakyamuni.
When a wise man hears the Dharma he is awe-struck and a little terrified. When a fool hears the Dharma, he laughs.
I don’t know how you jumped from emptiness of all phenomenon to One Mind.
The Buddha did not teach this.
Dharmakaya can only be seen by ninth stage bodhisattva’s and Buddhas.
When the dharmakaya is pointed out, that is just the fact that all phenomenon lack inherent essence from the “beginning” (there is no “begining”).
Where is this One Mind coming from?
Practice AYP.
Practice AYP.
yes with view of sunyata
Hi alwayson, thank you again for your referance to the book that I will order tomorrow. While I wait for it, I was wondering if you could tell me why and how you discriminate between the rainbow body and enlightenment. It seems there is some confusion about how we should all be using these terms on this thread. With Thanks, divinefurball
I try not to use the term.
I like bodhi (awakening) a lot better. Different levels of bodhi are associated with different bhumis.
When people use the term enlightenment nowadays I think, they are talking about Advaita/Zen thinking about realizing the nature of the mind.
Realizing the nature of the mind ala Ramana Maharishi etc. seems to be the end goal.
But in Vajrayana, realizing the nature of mind is the first thing done.
So realizing the nature of the mind is only the beginning in Vajrayana.
The Buddha teaches that all phenomena, causes and conditions are manifestations of the mind. Where does it come from? Look inside your own mind. It comes from the discrimination born of attachment.
Appearances and emptiness are always inseparable.
You always make a big deal of realizing the nature of the mind.
This is fine. And yes it is very important. But I am sure some people here have already done that.
that “enlightenment” is only step one in Vajrayana. I know in modern Avaita/Zen, this is the end goal. Which is why they suck.
I think I get what you are saying about the Mind thing.
Like how other people ONLY exist as past memories (and fictitious future projections) in your own mind at the present moment, the only moment there ever is? (because time is similarly a man-made label as well)
If you realize interdependent causality you know that the present moment never arises. Did the Buddha say the present moment is real? He said everything is unreal. That is why the present moment is a key to unlocking the unmanifest.
There are no steps beyond meditating on the nature of mind. One step yoga: AT THE MOMENT, see mind, while resting in the non-seeing non-conceptual state without judgment, focus, attachment, fear or hope.
The concise instruction is: seeing nothing is seeing; don’t move; sit like that.
What distinguishes Zen/Advaita from Vajrayana is: Dharmakaya is the union of appearances and emptiness. The appearances of the senses, the emotions and the intellect are opportunities to practice at the moment, and to realize their lack of inherent existence. To practice on them and to experience their emptiness. Not to think about them, to liberate them in the Dharmakaya.
Why do I make a big deal about the nature of mind? How do you get the first bhumi? or the tenth? Investigate whether you hold some concept as true, untrue or void. Do your concepts come from space, from your memories or what?
Samsara (time included) arises from likes, dislikes and confusion.