Its not even about the label of buddhism. Its about intention and view. Bon people also achieve rainbow body because they have the same intention and view.
Since these people want to benefit infinite sentient beings, the aspiration becomes infinite, and thus the Buddha’s body also becomes infinite (permanent).
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I think you and I have very different ideas of what a buddhist is actually. You are too caught up in the label. I look underneath the hood so to speak. Its the same problem you have had since page 2.
A buddhist for me is anyone with proper view and intention. Its a functional thing for me.
Like I said before, you call it Buddhism, I call it Yoga, and they meet at the end. These are all different labels of the same thing. You have a hate-on for anything you deem “Yoga” or “Hinduism” and put on a pedestal anything that you consider “Buddhism”. And what that is differs minute to minute with you it seems.
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Buddhism is different because of the view of emptiness (which I tried to explain before with the snake analogy), dedication of merit, and the intention to become perfectly awakened for the benefit of inifinite sentient beings.
If you have these three things you are eligible to obtain rainbow body, whether you call yourself buddhist or bon or yogi.
Or instead you can use yoga for inferior spiritual goals such as becoming a demigod (hinduism), becoming wealthy etc. It is all about intent, creating your own spiritual reality.
Or you can use yoga to achieve emptiness, dedication of merit and the intention of becoming perfectly enlightened for the benefit of all sentient beings
Achieving this doesn’t make you a Hindu or a Buddhist or a Christian, etc it makes you That. Free from all labels
I have a rainbow tatoo. Does that mean that I have achieved Rainbow Body? Or does it just make me a Buddhist?
You can’t achieve emptiness. All phenomenon already and always lack inherent essence.
It isn’t something to be achieved lol.
It is a view. From this view, you use yoga to obtain rainbow body. The yogas and tantric techniques are same between hindus and buddhists. The difference is the view combined with intention, which allows buddhists to obtain rainbow body.
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The winner and still undefeated champion…Alwayson!!! YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH!!! ![]()
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by the way, the people who obtain rainbow body do call themselves yogis, and do perform similar yogas to those taught here at AYP, but they also have a couple of advanced yogas not taught here…
out of curiosity, what would a buddhist normally consider their highest force for change, either personally or for all beings/existence? would it be ‘the intention to become perfectly awakened for the benefit of inifinite sentient beings’ or something of that nature?
I think readers of this thread should be aware that I am not it’s author. I asked alwayson a question on another thread about yogic christianity started by kirtanman, and a moderator seperated this thread out. Kind regards, divinefurball
Hi alwayson, I was wondering what you think: was Gautema the Buddha a Buddhist?
With appreciation for your responses, divinefurball
yes of course.
Even in the theravada pali canon, the main thrust its how he was a buddhist over many reincarnations.
From what I understand, there were many pali canons, such as a mahayana pali canon, which were lost when the muslims invaded india (among other things).
Thank You for responding alwayson. Please do so again: Who do you think was the first Buddhist? With Thanks, Divinefurball
Well even in the Pali canon, Buddhas stretch back forever due to dependent origination.
Hi Standingstone and welcome to the forum,
Different practitioners of Buddhism have different motivations for practice. When the Buddha was alive, he taught people to practice to bring about the ending of suffering. Later on, several hundred years after the Buddha’s death, there was a development in Buddhism, bringing about a seperate school of thought which is today called Mahayana, or the greater vehicle. In this school a practitioner can abandon any aspiration for individual enlightenment and dedicate the fruits of their action to bringing about the salvation of all humanity (and all of aware existence).
These things change over time for each practitioner, and there are no fixed rules.
It is really the same in yoga. We could practice simply to aleviate our own difficulties in life, or we may practice in order to help all beings, or any mixture of both.
It is our choice which path (dharma) we chose to take in order to realize the truth (dharma) and union (yoga) with all That is beyond the ten thousand things.
Christi
Hi, alwayson, does this mean that there have been an infinite number of Buddhas’? Please explain this and its relation to dependent origination. With gratitude, divinefurball
i have no clue. I don’t focus on stuff like that.