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I agree with Tristan. We should not anticipate or seek any outcome, which is an activity of ego. As for mantras, what I have discovered is that if we are still, the optimum mantra as decided by universal consciousness ‘comes to us’ automatically and reverberates in the background silently 24x7. Om (pronounced ohm) is the beej ( seed, root) mantra. But that could be different for others.
Hi UnseekingSeeker,
You may find this webpage helpful on why different mantras can be useful at different times on the spiritual path.
Thank you, Tristan.
In my case, I never knew what kundalini is, when I had the first activation sometime around 2018-19 or so. Of course I read a bit here and there but I do not follow any practice, since everything is being enabled automatically. I am against any doership, which in my view is likely to impede spiritual progress.
Essentially, after bliss in permanence is enabled (I have elaborated on the process in my poem, My Kundalini Awakening), we no longer meditate but are being meditated upon breath by breath in an unbroken continuum. Bliss burns ego, till it falls off and the Self as living light is recognised in singularity outside space-time.
The assimilation of what has been imbibed as truth without attention oscillation is the ‘challenge’, the word challenge itself being misleading since there is no one here, so to speak.
The energy grid and chakra system is far more enigmatic than listed in books commonly available. In my view, we should not bother about attempting to analyse. We cannot attain anything but what we can do is to thin out ego so that we can integrate singularity in duality, in this body, here now.
Thank you for providing the opportunity to share.
Hi SeekingSeeker,
The assimilation of truth takes time. It is really a re-membering of our true nature, which comes fleetingly at first and then later on becomes a constant stream.
You may find this lesson useful in which Yogani talks about the natural progression towards liberation:
This is an interesting topic to me. The reason is that I’ve been recently reading in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika about this practice in Nada Yoga, where you simply plug your ears (with your fingers) and listen to any inner sounds (nada) that come.
It is very unlike any technique in AYP and it is actually not too clear to me whether there actually is a systematic method behind the technique.
This Nada Yoga seems to also get quite a bit of attention, even tough when you think of the Hatha Yoga Pradipika you think of Asanas, Mudras, Bandhas or even Shatkarmas, human subltle neurobiology, the nectar cycle and the bindu.
However, I’ve never heard of anyone talking about the Nada Yoga. If I understood things correctly, nada can refer to subtle sound (or vibration) and would include the AYP mantra AYAM/I AM. However, the technique described in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika sound very different from Deep Meditation.
Could someone expand on this Nada Yoga a bit and perhaps explain it from AYPs perspective?
Hi Adrian,
Nada simply means “sound” in Sanskrit. Nada yoga is a common form of yoga and usually involves sitting with eyes closed, waiting for an inner sound to appear in the mind. If a sound does appear, then the practitioner focusses their attention on the inner sound. So, it is similar to Deep Meditation practice, just using a different meditation object.
There are a couple of reasons that it is not used in AYP. One is that the inner sounds are not always heard. So, someone could spend their entire meditation time waiting for something to happen, that does not happen. And then the bell goes. A mantra, on the other hand, is always available.
The second reason is that there is no knowing what inner sound, or sounds, will come, and what purifiactory effect they will have on the subtle nervous system. When using a mantra, or mantras, we know what the purification effect will be on the subtle neurobiology.
When I was first taught to meditate, I was taught to use the breath as a meditation object. Then, after a few years, I was taught to use the breath in each session, until I started to hear the Sound of Silence, which is a name sometimes given to the Omkara nada, the internal sound of Om. Then, when I heard this sound, I was taught to switch to this as my meditation object. Of course it meant constantly switching between meditation objects, depending on what I could hear, which is not ideal.
Hi Tristan and all,
Thank you for sharing your perspective and your personal experiences with this! It does indeed sound like a somewhat unreliable practice, which, of course, does not fit the theme of AYP. Maybe it should be thought of as something that might happen spontaneously (or not).
Thanks for sharing the article, Tristan.
After recognition of Self outside space-time, where we are, as awareness self-aware dwelling in ineffable peace, the natural question is how to integrate that knowing in active cognition in an unbroken continuum. The process, as I see it is to erase vasanas (* past tendencies) and choose to remain in thought rested silence.
The verses of Ramana Maharishi, Ulladu Narpadu are useful to contemplate on, to enter deeper layers of silence and stillness. Tom Das has translated these verses in English. Complementing these verses, there is an excellent series of lectures by Swami Ramanacharna Tirtha on YouTube. 37 lectures, each an hour or do in duration, so perhaps not everyone’s cup of tea but for those who have the patience and zeal, I’d recommend them highly.
The book, ‘Naam or word’ by Kirpal Singh offers useful information on the inner sound current.
On my part, I have always heard the current from a young age. We can tune into the inner sound by internalising attention. However, if the inner sound itself becomes an object of meditation, then in my view, we remain in differentiated awareness, not pure silence.