Steve Vai

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I can’t believe that in 2011 somebody is talking about Screaming Headless Torsos in the AYP-forum! :smiley: That was one of my favourites as a teen ager. I even got to hang out with Dave Fiuczynski :wink: Here’s a Miles davis cover from the first record:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRCNotvdEXY

Cool. I got into them by way of JoJo . This is his band Nerve. He is a human drum machine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWRU3Sxt9tY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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And for those who prefer a more meditative, relaxing sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlQhRCeKQW4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This is a band called Bliss. Name suggests the style :slight_smile:

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I know jazz, rock and music theory and still don’t understand what you’re saying. If E, B is a “I” chord why do you say “try F”? ii in the key of E would be F#. And F# with C would be a nasty sounding diminished fifth.
By ii, V, and I are you referring to supertonic, dominant, and tonic chords? What key?

Key of C, and yes, supertonic, dom, and tonic, and sorry, I accidentally posted too quickly and my computer died away soon after. I meant, try an F# (rather than F) for the augmented 4th of the I chord, so youd have C, E, F#, B (maj7 #11)). Though an F still works (rather than an augm. 4th) with my ears, I like dissonance, spent too much time in a metal band haha. ii( or IV... quite interchangeable), F, B,C,E (ii 6/9 , 6=B and 9=E)... as a rootless ii. As a IV, it would be missing an A, obviously, you could add that in I guess, or leave it out, blahh, wahtever. and a V 13 (F,B,C,E)... C# would be nicer on here though, for a V 13, #11 ...... again, a rootless chord. Though yet again, I find it somehow works even with the regular C. 3rds and 7ths are what's prominent for proper voice leading, the above just jumbles up all the voice leading into one chord hehe. :) Inn the words of Cynic(sort of jazz metal band):"everythingggg is ooooone" haha.
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Karl, you ever hear Arvo Part? He writes mystic(or religious) minimalism, your band, Bliss made me think of him.
I had to study Arvo in university, beautiful composer. His music is hugely inspired by the sound of church bells, its kinda neat his musical process (he writes a melody, picks one chord for the entire piece (lets say A minor), and then uses the closest or furthest chord tone to whats going on in the melody as an underlying sort of harmonic process. So lets say you have a A, B, C melody, the chord tones would go E, E, A(for A minor, and for the furthest away tones… I think I got that right, hmmrph)

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Divineis wrote,
“Key of C, and yes, supertonic, dom, and tonic”
NOW we’re talking the same language, and i understand you. I tried to “reverse engineer it” from the info you gave not knowing the key, and I couldn’t come up with anything. Even without a root I need to know what key just as a reference. Haven’t played for years and don’t have an instrument, but I have perfect pitch, so i am imagining it. . .
Thanks Divineis

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Divineis: not come across him, will certainly look it up. Seems like just the sort of thing that (a) peels. See what I did there :grin:
Etherfish, can you do the chord conversion. All I can find is C maj 7 # 11, and it’s nasty to play without six fingers. Perfect pitch, bet that’s a curse at Karaoke nights :grin:

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The original FCBE is a C major 7th with a 4th instead of fifth. See if you can play Cmaj7 and move the G down to an F.

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Yes, got that. Only really practical for me to tune the open G to an F. I can sort of play it on the 8 th fret but using 4f fingers the stretch back to the F is just about impossible without the fingers muffling the strings. Got enough to get an idea of the sound, it’s almost like two different chord voicings, very weird. Might be someone’s perfect chord, it definitely isn’t mine :grin:

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Thanks for mentioning Arvo Part Divineis! I had forgot him :slight_smile:

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No problem Kim. I got the pleasure of hearing one of his songs live last night. Fratres for cello and piano it was. OH man, was it ever a good show. Here’s a link if you wanna check out the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vO92REraUo

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That was good.
Have you come across Clint Mansell?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLpJtvzlEI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Really original film scores. He is ex pop will eat itself front man. Not yet brought out a solo album, but his film scores are excellent.
I suppose everyone has seen the film “fountain”, talk about scenery…man. Meditation on the edge!

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cool, thanks for sharign Karl. i’m actually taking film music at school next term :slight_smile: should be fun.