nop Osho was not complex…on the contrary he was poiting out our complexes
“After a hundred years people will be perfectly able to understand why I was misunderstood - because I am the beginning of the mystical, the irrational. I am a discontinuity with the past. The past cannot understand me; only the future will understand.”
Osho
Hi Escapado,
Osho isn’t the only person who has said that the constant repetition of a mantra isn’t a very useful practice. Yogani has also said it. So has Krishnamurti.
The constant repetition of a mantra is called mantra japa. Deep Meditation is not mantra japa, and neither is TM. Osho obviously didn’t practice TM! If you read the instructions for Deep Meditation you can see that it is a lot more subtle and far reaching than simply the constant repetition of a mantra. It is a meditation practice using a mantra as an object, whilst simultaneously letting that object dissolve into silence.
Christi
Who cares what Osho says about mantra meditation? He criticized pretty much every technique and tradition outside his own that he made up…
oh, so thats how it is.
i’m just starting to get it.
the mantra no only gets faint and fuzzy but gets slower.
in my frustrated state i was saying it more often to get more effect (I’ve read about results oriente practice being bad).
i’ve had a mantra slowing before, the Maranath mantra.
sometimes i think i’m genuinely stupid
Joe
p.s. i was considering a while ago delving into Oshos prolific teaching but decided against it. perhaps wise
Like most Masters, Osho responded to the questioner first, and the question second.
For some people mantra is bad, for some, it’s good.
He must have seen it was bad for the questioner and answered accordingly, regardless of the fact that others may have been listening.
As everything he said was recorded and transcribed, it is assumed that his words can be read like a one-size-fits-all bible, but this only leads to frustration and contradiction, because attaining Truth requires an individual approach.
On another occasion he would have answered differently - because the context was different.
Always discover the context first, and read the whole story, not excerpts.
Buddhist & Yogic stories of masters chasing off or insulting students abound, and we accept that this was done in the best long term interests of the student.
Both Krishnamurti’s were good at doing this as well.
Namaste
Yes I agree; one of the pitfalls of idolizing “masters” and trying to follow their every word.
I heard a Christian guy once saying- Jesus said no one reaches God except through him, for all people and all time.
I thought wait a minute, that’s not what he said. Metaphorically people say, he meant you have to reach christhood first to reach God.
But literally it was true for the people he was speaking directly to, who had no internet, no bible, no meditation, no other good religious teachers, no long distance transportation.