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Yes I think he was in his natrul state of meditation
I just orders that book thank you
there are many people like ramana or advaita Vedanta that say we are already what we seek, l do think deep meditation helps with recognition I just don’t want it to be dependent on meditation because meditation like then u become dependent on it to feel connected to god
Yeah I think the zazen one is good because it’s not non doing, I think just being is out natrul state but it’s too coverd up by the mind
So when do u get to permanently stop meditating and abide there forever
What’s overload like? Can you tell me?
Hello sey, what kind of overload effects do you experience?
Is it scary or something I should avoid ? Like avoid spinal breathing early on?
To be honest, It varies.
There can be energetic overload where particularly at night I wake up feeling strong electrical currents through my body which are uncomfortable and very strange feeling.
I may have out of body experiences, lucid dreams or a disproportionate amount of nightmares etc…
There is a vast array of ‘scenery’ available at these times, and it isn’t really beneficial to go too much into that.
The most important overload symptom to notice is the day to day stuff. So sometimes I may feel that certain negative thoughts can be persistently triggering negative feelings and emotions, which starts to wear me down. I have found repeatedly that scaling back practices cures this pretty quickly.
Basically overloading means that purification is happening too fast for comfort, which means that all the repressed stuff is being ejected (purified)from the nervous system too quickly. For this stuff to leave the nervous system, it has to be ‘felt’ , so, it’s better to let it out at a comfortable speed, which is why we constantly work towards a balanced practice.
Hope that helps 
At a certain stage meditation becomes a constant in your life, so it is not done for dependence. It just strengthens the habit to return to god constantly.
You can see from Seys comments that the practice is constantly changing, at one stage we can practice for hours, then at another we become so sensitive that maybe we can only practice every 24-48hrs.
I met a man called John Butler, he’s an 80+ year old guy from a town near me. He has been practicing meditation twice daily for over 60 years. He has always maintained that awakening is a continuous ’unfolding’ that never ends. Who knows 
In AYP it is not recommended to stop meditating ever - irrespective of whether you are experiencing the non-dual state or not. And from my experience states I thought I had mastered two years ago, I have lost again this year, so one cannot really tell where the end game is. For example two years ago, I was consistently (daily) awake in sleep and dream state for about a year. I thought that’s it - I am awake 24/7. That is no longer the case today - I fall asleep and dream ordinary dreams, unconscious. Was it just a stage? Did I regress? I don’t know. Best to keep meditating and not worry about where you are at.
Sey 
Overload effects:
When I say I become “useless for daily activity”, I feel intoxicated, filled with such ecstatic bliss, I am unable to focus on matters at hand. My boss and colleagues often call me out on it “Sey - focus!”
Another typical sign of overload for me is that ecstatic-bliss swings the other way and feels so painful and extremely fearful (irrational fear)
Sey
lol hi Sey. when I was practicing Divine Light meditation we used to call it being spaced out lol. Thanks you brought up some happy memories .
Hey Magic,
since I am a devotee of Bhagavan Ramana I am very familiar with his „teaching“. I am new on this forum and it amazes me how different people find different systems and words to describe what yet cannot be described and to reach what cannot be reached since it is that what is already. The purpose is to give every seeker an entry point to start his path towards realizing his true self which is the goal of every spiritual search.
Ramanas teaching was Silence and Being. Since this is the pure state, resting in this natural state is the best thing we can do and the highest form of practice.
Simply put: everytime you find „someone“ who acts, thinks, meditates, performs various actions, you revert your attention back to the knower of these actions. This is the meaning of the question „Who Am I?“
The purpose of the question is to put attention away from the doer of actions back to the knower (pure awareness) AND to remain as THIS (awareness) as long as possible..
No other practice is needed. Is this an answer your mind sees truth in?
Regards, Philipp
yeah that’s the thing you know, I understand that meditation helps to keep us on a good spiritual path I agree without falling backward, but at the same time I want to be awake 24/7 without techniques because I want to break free from the cycle of reincarnation and needing techniques, in the next like what? How am I soppost to remember it without the deep meditation technique, I don’t want to fall asleep ever for eternity so I feel I have to wake up this lifetime somehow or maybe I’m already awake as some nondual teachers say idk 
god bless 
Yes thank you this information helps ,These eletrical sensations in the spine are they able to go away? Like if you wanted the to ? I wonder if People experience energy overload due to the switch of meditation because aypsite uses a different form of meditation, Similar to Tm meditation, the original kriya meditation revolved around I believe (not sure if 100% correct) but I believe at the end of spinal pranyama they did third eye gazing, merging with aum vibration and resting in the parvastha state, which is different compared to the aypsite spinal breathing , the deep meditation 20 mins followed by some rest, I’m unsure if deep meditation is even works for the kriya system, because the spinal pranyama was originally for kriya yoga , I don’t know if deep meditation purifies the subtle body because energy problems are working with energy and mantra is settling, they aimed to merge with the spiritual eye or use it as a tool I believe for god realization
Yeah as of now, meditation I think helps me to not get lost In the chaos of life, I just don’t want to forget it you know? Because in the next life I might not have these meditation techniques
What is estatic bliss? Can you explain what that is or what it feels like? how does it help spiritual growth, what’s the purpose of this estatic bliss?
Thank you for your response, yes I resonate with Ramana teaching, and I tried the question “who am I” the response was “me Nate” , then “who owns Nate” then my mind said “i don’t know” And I think I might have a feeling of this being or silence your talking about, but sometimes I feel like I keep forgetting, how Did Ramana teach to use who am I to rogognize awareness and rest their? I feel pulled back by my ego or sense of self which is good because it’s a gift of god, so maybe even being human is still awareness I dont know