[quote] I have noticed my right hand (and arm) doing strange things lately. It goes up in the air when someone needs help… palm open, fingers up and splayed, facing forward…[quote]
Hey Christi,
Wow…that one occurred once with me …wasn’t through my effort …a lady came to the temple and was unconscious dancing by the murtis…anyway another person was within her different voice had an nice indian accent and gurujii sent the young guys to line up for lord knows what…one of the young guys was asked to reapeat"om namah shivaya" …another guy was doubting the whole thing and she went ahead and told him exactly what he did 3 days before…annother guy had to be spinned and then automatically I was standing there (had no choice)and my hand went up automatically and something strong came out…
Again…first time I ever experienced this one…
but a greater force was doing that one…who knows it could have been a combination effort of all the spiritual persons …there were alot of people there…
Anyway I don’t particularly remember my palm being splayed …it usually takes a nice formation…(if you are familiar with any hindu pictures something just like that…
each formation have a diiferent meaning
From what I gathered so far christi when you lift your hands high up you are going into different mode…a stronger one…
Some hand signals Frank revealed is also a way to release stress…which I agree to a point…
remember I am learning also…my guru use the same hand signal to indeed direct with intent…especially when my hand vortex opens up and needs to be closed…at that time I was just glad the thing just stopped and never noticed the significance until now.
But you know someone once told me with bhakti…needn’t worry…it will guide you accordingly…
Hey did you get or do already have a Guru?
Reiki master is from my experience not a Guru…
Namaste
Hi Nsantoo,
If you mean someone that I can go and see and talk to, then no I don’t have a guru. I don’t think gurus are that easy to find. Enlightened beings are a bit thin on the ground where I live. I sometimes meet angels, but they can’t speak, so I can’t ask them questions about the spiritual life. But being in their presence is similar to being in the presence of a Guru.
I guess that was a yes 
?
I have seen only a few angels …usually they bring an unspoken message …their presence is usually enough…they would speak to you through your intuition…That is something you have to work on…I guess
If your area has any temples …go …your bhakti will guide you to meet your teacher…you need a Guru…in the meantime continue your devotion in whatever form…
Namaste
Yes you are right, I do need to work on my intuition. Probably most of us do , but then, if we are doing AYP then we are. I was being a bit unfair on angels when I said that they could not talk 
. As I am sure you know they are highly advanced beings that do not speak because they are way beyond it. When I meet angels, there is a strong communication on a feeling level, and a kind of strong heart connection. But I could never ask a question like “should I be healing people”. I am sure that angels can read our minds, so I could just “think” it, but then in what form would the answer come? This kind of thing must be possible, because there are accounts in the bible of people meeting angels, and the angels ‘telling’ them something specific that was about to happen.
To be absolutely honest, when I feel an angel present, I am usually catapulted into a state of euphoria/ start crying/ fall to my knees in bliss etc. So the idea of remembering what specific questions I needed to ask about my yoga practice, and then communicating it, would be perhaps too monumental a task 
.
Love and Light
Christi
Alan said:
If someone has the ability to heal how can it be held back for lack or want of money? What’s up with that? Anyone can straighten me out here if I’m missing som’n.
I don’t have any issue with someone charging a reasonable fee for any of their time. If the fee is unreasonable, I’d hope the market would take care of that… but if they are misrepresenting the scope of their powers, and using that to successfully charge excessive fees, then they are being deceptive.
Put it another way: if you have a healing gift, are you doomed to be poor, and unable to provide for a family, if you spend a lot of time using it?
okay now the ones(angels) I saw were from a distance from a kind of divination called scrying…perfect formations in sky
I am a coward I definitely never saw the ones you spoke about…I would have freaked out…
You are lucky to experience those things…
here’s what
post some things you would like to know (more like questions)I can give you the answers in the form of yes and no only.Please be specific, those I am not sure about I would definitely not answer okay
Namaste
my second attempt answering
I tried a form of divination called cloud scrying…it worked
I saw huge angels with wings really nice but a message usually was revealed
I wasn’t so lucky as you to actually come face to face with one
I would have definitely freaked out
you are indeed blessed to have such experiences…
Hi again,
If I am following the AYP lessons through as instructed, do you think I really need to find a Guru? It could just complicate matters, as my Guru would probably give me a set of yogic practices and tell me not to mix them with any other practices as it could be dangerous, no? I have heard that many Gurus do this (and if I was a Guru I would probably do it too ). As for having someone available to answer any spiritual problems I have, Yogani does more than an exellent job. Of course there are other benefits to having a guru. Why do you think it is so necessary for me to have a Guru? Would you give the same advice to anyone practicing AYP?
My experience with angels is that it is hard to freak out in the presence of one. They come surrounded by a magical aura which is intensley loving, radiant and calming (if a little overwhelming)… So their mere presence is enough to stop you freaking out. I cry because of the beauty of their energy… golden waves of unconditional love. Yogani mentions angels in the AYP lessons, and also in the Secrets of Wilder book.
I would agree with you totally David… exept there comes a point. I know you don’t believe too strongly in the literal translation of the bible, but suposing you had reason to believe that Jesus was a fully enlightened being, and evidence was found that he really did perform miraculous healings, making blind people see and curing leppers, if you then heard that he was charging money for these healings, would you not be a little surprised? Or even dissapointed? For some reason, something inside me feels that mirracles should be free. If that is true, would that mean that a healer could charge for their time until they become so effective at it that their healings enter the “miraculous” level?
Love and Light
Christi
Christi,
The AYP lessons function perfectly as a guru.
And then Jesus spake unto the crowd of his Father’s lambs and said, “Hey, who touched my robe? Somebody owes me a couple of loaves and a fish!”
Pretty funny Alan!
Lu 8:46
And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me.
At the same time, it could have happened… you know, when Jesus said that the “virtue” is gone out of him, maybe he meant it!
Tell that to Lazarus:
[LOL, I thought you would get a kick out of that, Yogani, LOL].
Maybe we were kindred spirits in another lifetime, if I believed that were possible, since I was going to post the same quotes, nearly verbatim. Although, I would like to add/summize that Christ’s healing was done for the whole and not the individual, which would be in accordance with Universal Law/Onement.
VIL
Very funny guys 
Trying to bring the discussion back to a more serious note…
I would still like to know what people really think about this- the giving healing and charging money thing?
I am one of those people who gives healing for free, but I am always broke and worried about how to support my family.
Doesn’t everything come from God? Does prana come from God more than anything else? And how does remote Samyama work? It must be working through the akasha… but what is the medium of transmission if not prana (i.e. what carries the energy)?
Love and light
Christi
Well Christi did you see my comments:
and David’s?
Or were you just after more opinions?
Mike
Hi Mike,
Sorry, I didn’t phrase my question very well. Yes I saw these postings… and they cover the issue very well. I was not looking for more opinions on this.
It was this question that I was interested in seeing if anyone could throw any light on:
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suposing you had reason to believe that Jesus was a fully enlightened being, and evidence was found that he really did perform miraculous healings, making blind people see and curing leppers, if you then heard that he was charging money for these healings, would you not be a little surprised?
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Does anyone else feel that it would have been surprising for Jesus to have decided to charge money for his healings? If it is just a matter of opinion, then why would one decision (for Jesus to charge for healing the sick) be surprising, whilst the other decision (for Jesus to heal the sick for free) be unsurprising?
Hi
I think Jesus might tell us that the act of the healing is complete unto itself. Nothing more need be added or exchanged to complete it. If food, shelter, clothing were needed then it would be provided. Jesus didn’t heal to get these things.
Hi Christi,
the point is, you are not Jesus.
We can argue that Jesus should not charge for healing,
or we can argue that Jesus has a right to charge whatever he wants.
The point is: what is your situation ?
Would it be ok for YOU to charge something ?
Your wish and desire is to heal for free,
yet you would be grateful for a financial exchange.
Why don’t you tell the people you healed, that you
would be grateful for a donation ?
L&L
Wolfgang
Good answer Wolfgang.
Christi that is almost exactly what I was going to tell you. Listen to your heart hon. Jesus did not have to worry about a lot of things that you and I have to worry about… he was at a different level than us. When you reach that level 
… you don’t have to ask for money either. But now, I don’t think there is anything wrong with asking for money… as long as you don’t get greedy (which is what happens to many). My father did reiki for free for years… but after he retired he needed some extra help… so now he asks for a nominal fee … and if there is someone who cannot pay it… he wont take the money… It has to be your decision… do what you think is right in your heart… don’t worry about what others think…
Then again… don’t listen to me either… he he… just listen to your heart…
Hey Christi ditto from here. I was just investigating what I think about Jesus. Follow your heart. If you have a knack for channeling healing energy, and you need to make an exchange for your time so as to make a living, I too see nothing wrong there.
Yours in Light, Alan
Thanks for all the great advice everyone.
You are right Wolfgang… I am not Jesus. I was just reffering to him because these days we are kind of short on rolemodels!
I will listen to my heart as advised… and see what comes.
Love and Light.
Christi.