seekeroftruth,
do let us all know if you have any significant experience with your practices.
- Near
There are some other weblist free lineages but that is the point indeed, you’ll not have a human follow up (phone or face to face) which is absolutely required when entering into deep shadow layers of the work.
I happen to be a VERY close friend of Santiago as well as his student and I tell you this, he is a Saint with a pure generous heart. Glenn, I knew him also for a long time before he passed away & i’m still in contact astrally.
In Shakti, Albert
I haven’t generated THAT much heat yet. 
But, it would be awesome to sit in central park melting the snow around me,while unsuspecting New Yorkers pass by in amazement. 
Santiago said it takes some time to do the hardcore melting stuff with Tummo. One of his students was sixty five and took a bath with three bags of ice and melted them all!
But, if I get good at Tummo, I’ll definitely try melting some snow this winter.
Btw, santiago is a bodyguard, not a cop i think. He said he was a bodyguard for Jay-Z once.
Near, did you read Santiago’s reply to mikaelz. He said basically that energy work and kundalini is necessary in the beginning because you can’t just think you don’t exist and be enlightened! Yogani has talked a lot about this.
Just my $.02.
Actually, I’ve spoken a lot. I think I’m up to $.10 by now. 
Yes, Santi does bodyguarding but wanted to a become cop (trained real hard for exams during months, there were all positive, was supposed to enter the academy but US economy budget things screwed up his plan te have permanent job). He has 4 kids and his wife is a school teacher. Besides KAP, he teaches an indonesian martial art called Pencak Silat. Also, he occasionally works as studio sound engineer plus record music with his band Aghora. For those of you interested in mystic martial arts, look at silatyogi on youtube (many videos), for example using energy field management to block physical attacks:
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=XkI03kElc5E
Albert
I thought that I would mention, for those that may be interested, that I started the KAP course with Tao on Sunday. I signed up on a bit of an impulse the day before it was due to start. I’m glad I did. Tao has been able to explain what has caused my symptoms and given me methods to help. I have had a very unpleasant few weeks, but in a matter of days most of my negative have gone!
Hawk, Thats so cool, and Nice to hear.
I’m starting KAP -course next month and feeling excited about it!
Glad to hear that you will be giving it a go. I’ve been having a lot of fun with it. I’m so glad that I signed up on impulse! Are you on facebook yet?
Hi Albert,
I was also blessed to read Santiago posts in another Forum, maybe you remember me,I think you were also there, when he was stating his ideas to the owner of the Forum, and many of us went out, by the brutal attack made upon him by the “M.A.S.”
I liked very much his posts, I wonder if he is here, or in another place, Do you know something about him ?
Wonderful warrior, shaman or whatever. Big man. I really missed his wonderful advices.
In Shakti.
Neli
Hi Neli,
How funny we’re both member of that list, what was your pseudo ?
As for Santiago, please note I mentionned before that his a brother in Shakti which means among other things, we’re friends & he is also my teacher so I’m in contact with Santi almost everyday (astral, chat, mail or phone). I also know his brother in Shakti Tao Semko an authentic yogi. All this sacred connections started back in 2004 when I knew Glenn Morris who also knew very well MAS.
For your info, I’m also close friend with MAS since 2004 but never followed her lineage eventhough I participated a lot on her forums.
In Shakti, Albert
Hi Albert,
I always use Neli as a pseudo, and also that is my name but written in a different way.
I liked the Forum of MAS but found her very aggressive, when she began to insult Santi, I told her that it was her ego, then they never let me write again, and in short time I went out, maybe it was at the same time that you went out, cause I remember you getting out before me, she put out Santi of her list and I could felt that the Forum was not the same.
Liked very much his point of view. and loved his jokes! I think he is a Big Shaman, and thought that it was a kind of jealousy from MAS towards Santi.
I think MAS is a very good warrior (shaman), but in my opinion, I think she doesn’t fits in the K path, not with that aggressivity.
Maybe I’m wrong, cause I loved what she mentioned about the shamans, in her Forum, its very true. I think she is a very good person only a very rough one.
Say Hello to Santi from my part, I think he would remember me, I used the same pseudo, it was last year, or maybe the beginning of this year, I don’t remember well. I miss his jokes ! He is wonderful!!
I learned a lot from him. But I don’t know him, but I could sense his soul, he is like you said, a Saint.
It was a pity that MAS put him out, I was there only to read him.
They were fighting about Egos, and then it was the second world war, hahaha
Il n’y’a pas de coincidences !!
Greetings
Neli
Hi Neli,
How funny we’re both member of that list, what was your pseudo ?
As for Santiago, please note I mentionned before that his a brother in Shakti which means among other things, we’re friends & he is also my teacher so I’m in contact with Santi almost everyday (astral, chat, mail or phone). I also know his brother in Shakti Tao Semko an authentic yogi. All this sacred connections started back in 2004 when I knew Glenn Morris who also knew very well MAS.
For your info, I’m also close friend with MAS since 2004 but never followed her lineage eventhough I participated a lot on her forums.
In Shakti, Albert
Oui en effet, coincidences or synchronicities are manifestations in this plane of existence of God, Godess, Mother Kundalini, Mystery, Universe, Allah, No Name… what ever archetype label one is using once a spiritual awakening started whatever the lineage. Albert
Coincidences and synchronicities are always present in the Shaman’s path, and as you said in every spiritual lineage.
Neli
Oui en effet, coincidences or synchronicities are manifestations in this plane of existence of God, Godess, Mother Kundalini, Mystery, Universe, Allah, No Name… what ever archetype label one is using once a spiritual awakening started whatever the lineage. Albert
Hi Hawk, yeah I joined facebook a couple days ago.
I had my 1st KAP online class today. Atmosphere was nice and exercises were interesting. Not sure yet do I need to self-pace with these…
I’d pm you to ask who you are on Facebook, but I don’t have enough posts yet I guess!
[quote=“nearoanoke”]
Understand the Tantra, and kundalini is fundamental tantric, is about divesting you of your normal “self” structures, so that you can detach from your conventional reality. It is training in detachment. It also shows you that your intention controls the flow of chi in your body. It is an exercise in moving and controlling chi. You should intend that it be balanced evenly through the body after you are aware of your control.
What is missing from modern teaching is that you are not to detach from one prison cell and attach to another. Whether your cell is concrete or crystal or light doesn’t matter; it’s a prison for your mind.
You will only free your mind when you cease clinging to practices and results of practices. If you don’t, in the final stage, you will remain attached, you will not be free, you will become disillusioned and turn away from truth.
Dear seeker, please understand that these practices are for awakening you to your true nature, a selfless, loving and altruistic person whose life is dedicated to the good of the world.
Keep in mind that kundalini practice is to introduce you to a deep state of relaxation where it is easier for you to release the mental knots and blocks that are at the heart of your seeking. Therefore, it is not finding that you need, but releasing. Kundalini tantra, and meditation is not always in synch. Yoga Tantra is preparatory to real meditation practice.
Attachment is the only evil, the only problem. Cling to nothing whatsoever and you will succeed. You will find what you seek.
HA!
TMS
Haven’t posted on here for a while, so I guess I’ll give an update about the course.
First of all, I’m feeling chi/prana in my hands for the first time (at least I’m pretty sure that’s what I’m feeling), so something seems to be happening. Other people seem to going through some profound stuff. Here’s what one Tao Bum experienced after meeting Santiago in person:
http://www.thetaobums.com/KAP-London-Workshop-t7663.html
Just as an interesting offnote:
In KAP, you work a lot with the chakras directly including the crown, but Santi repeatedly emphasizes that the system has been designed to make sure there are a minimum amount of overload symptoms. I know Yogani says not to mess around with the chakras, especially the crown. I’m not trying to start an argument, just throwing that out there.
Will continue to update if anything major happens
YAY you finally feel something!!!
THANKS SCOTT!
Can’t tell you how annoying it is to go on the Kunlun forum and read about people doing these crazy experiences and I can’t even feel chi.
One step at a time, I guess.
I am so glad that I decided to give KAP a shot. I have to admit that the web site seems a bit cheesy, but the courses are very good. Both Tao Semo and Santiago are great teachers, Tao being a bit more “yin”, and Santi being a bit more “yang”. The lessons are very effective - and also fun. Not only have I freed up my energy, I am begining to understand what Bliss is.
Hi Friends,
I plan to try this out, could anyone share more information or feedback about the KAP process through distance learning - they have 12 online sessions via skype of half an hour each - has anyone here been benefited from this ? Those who posted their experience above (seeker, hawk, self etc), was the expeience temporary or a lasting one ?
Thank You,
Mufad.