Shweta, I am confused about what you refer to as the nasal passage. Do you mean the nasopharynx that the whole tongue enters (stage 2)or do you mean the individual nasal passages that are seperated but the septum?(stage 4) if it is the first then I am confident that you will get there soon. If it is the second then I would not waste any thought on frustration and just enjoy the practice of stage 2 kechari!
Hi Victor… stage 2 thats where I would be.
Sorry for the confusion…
Oh! i thought you were referring to stage 4. Now I understand your frustration a little better. persevere, it will come. Might take a little while but you will get there
Shweta - I was confused too about where your tongue was — it seemed that you’d gone from stage 1 to stage 4 over the weekend! 
I think that’s why everyone was telling you to slow down.
Sorry… 
Hi Shanti:
Not to be rushing you to stage 4 (see posts above), but a careful reading of AYP lesson 108 can help when the time is right. It is also covered in narrative form in the Secrets of Wilder novel. The stage 4 technique involves twisting the tongue on its side, top toward the center, by following the groove down with the tip of the tongue from the top of the eustachian tube trumpets on either side of the nasal passages.
I am sure there are other ways to do it, just as we have had a breakthrough here recently with pressing forward over the soft palate with the tongue into stage 2. A surge of new stage 2 entries have come from that. Bravo!
Now, it’s suggested you give yourself a chance to acclimate before pressing on into stage 4. Stage 2-3 with the secret spot on the edge of the septum is the meat and potatoes of kechari, while into the nostrils to stage 4 is the wild blue yonder of it. Are you the wild blue yonder type? 
The guru is in you.
Thank you Yogani.
"Are you the wild blue yonder type?’
Not yet… but you never know… 
Good Morning all you Kechari Experts, I have a question. I have had a little breakthrough over the weekend and I am not sure where I am. The progress has been made using a combination of reaching and relaxing, reaching and relaxing. What I am experiencing is this. My tongue is laying on the top of the soft palate in stage 2. When I reach forward I feel 2 rather sensitve things simultaneously like 2 smooth sides of a trough. When I push a little further and higher there seems to a harder thing more in the center. All of them appear to come closer and are easier to touch on the inhale and they recede a bit on the exhale although that may be an illusion (I am not sure). They are all quite sensitive and my nose starts to run a bit when I touch them. Am I getting up towards the individual nasal passages or what? I have looked at the diagrams in #108, but still it isn’t clear. It seems a little soon to have reached the nostrils, but there is some complexity to the structures and they seem somewhat tall and narrow. They also seem kind of bony. Any thoughts would be great!!
Thanks,
Tom
Tom,CONGRATULATIONS! you are in stage 2. There are several anatomical structures in there but it all really doesn’t comprise much physical space. Once you get past the soft palate and slide the tongue forward you will find that nothing is too far a reach, it just feels like it at first. Just keep exploring and become familiar with that area and soon enough it should become comfortable to include as a normal part of your practice.
Thanks Victor,
What exactly am I hitting there? Can you tell by the description? It seems to move. Sometimes it feels closer and sometimes further away. How far from here is the “Secret Spot”? Thanks for the encouragement!
Tom
Can any of you experienced in stage 2 kechari tell me if the drooling goes away with time. Is it an effect of straining the tongue?
Thanks,
Paul
I wouldn’t worry about any one spot just yet. just explore the nooks and crannies till it gets easy and comfortable. as for drooling, it should get less and you can always take a break to swallow it
Hi everybody
This is so cool! It’s exciting watching all your kechari dominoes fall one by one.
Hey Paul, the drooling goes away. Everything gets comfortable after a short time. The tongue will soon just slip into place and the drooling will go away. You will even be able to swallow comfortably.
I’m actually missing the excitement of finding this sensitive realm back when it was new and unexplored.
Hey, try to talk while you’re there. Have fun!
Peace, alan
Hi Paul, I have never drooled, but I will say that the saliva buildup seems to diminish as I get more used to Kechari. I understand that it goes away. I am hopeful. I am not sure why so much saliva is created. It must be be a protection mechanism or some such thing, but that is just a guess.Tom
Thanks Victor, I will just explore. Tom
Drooling as well as an increase in phlegm production, is purification. I’d say not to swallow the spit…but I’m no expert. It just seems to me that when I swallow the drool from kechari, or any excess phlegm, that it affects my stomach negatively. I may have to take up stomach cleansing with a cloth soon, until it subsides…
-Scott
Alan,
I am curious about being able to swallow while maintaining stage 2. Do you have any tips to offer?
BTW, the drooling has diminished somewhat.
It is amazing that the full girth of my big fat tongue can slide through that trap door with no problems. Our anatomy is simply amazing how it accomadates stuff like this. Stage 2 just gets easier by the day.
Scott,
I have not experienced any phlegm. I figure that swallowing the drool probably contains enzymes that help digestion. I have not had any adverse reactions to swallowing it.
Can anyone share how long it took before they did not need to use a finger to enter stage 2?
With Peace,
Paul
I am curious about being able to swallow while maintaining stage 2. Do you have any tips to offer?
Yes. As a drill, start to learn to swallow (a little water) with your tongue sticking out of your mouth and up. It can be done. When you master that, then you can learn to drink water with your tongue in kechari.
However, this is not necessary. I recommend doing it only if you find it fun, or are intrigued by it. If you can’t do it, don’t worry about it.
The drooling diminished for me over a period of a few weeks. This makes learning to swallow in kechari less necessary.
I can’t answer the finger question, since I never used mine to enter kechari.
Lucid, you may be right that the spit is actually good to swallow.
-Scott
Thanks David,I will give that a shot.
With Peace,
Paul