What I have done in a few posts is explain some esoteric symbolism held by the initatic schools of present day and antiquity. Those who wish to verify these things through their own study can do so. Furthermore, and what is of greater import, is for one to awaken their consciousness, leave their dense body at will and study in the temples that exist in the superior worlds of the cosmos. Anyone is free to do this.
The very nature of an esoteric symbolism is 100% antagonistic to those who do not believe it exists because it undermines the very basis of those sects, schools, churches, etc., that do not accept it. Likewise, by stating it does not exist, one is bashing Gnosticism, the revelations that Jesus unveiled to his 70 disciples after his resurrection in The Pistis Sophia (Books of the Savior), etc. Speaking as a Gnostic inherently offends those who believe it to be heresy.
I will modify, then, my first post of this thread: According to Gnosticism, at first the Christians had this knowledge, yet, eventually lost it. According to the Gnostic Catholic Church, the entire Bible was written by those who knew the Kabbalah, and the Roman Catholic Church deviated from its source, the Gnostic Catholic Church, and today the Roman Catholic Church views Christic Esotericism as heresy. According to Gnostic Christianity, no one can understand the Bible, especially Genesis and Revelations without deep kabbalistic comprehension. The Gnostic Catholic Church separates itself from the Roman Catholic Church because it cannot accept the lack of the sexual teachings (sexual transmutation) that were given in code by Jesus Christ.
I apologize for my offensive tones in the previous posts.
Speaking again on behalf of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, I have already stated that an Esoteric Christian Spiritual Tradition and Method has always existed within the original Eastern Orthodox Christianity since the earliest times. What I don’t accept as fact is the Completely Bogus and Totally False Claim that Gnostic Spirituality and/or Theology realistically represents the sole, legitimate and authentic depository of the Ancient Esoteric Christian Tradition! 
It was common knowledge among the immediate Apostles and Disciples of Jesus that His teaching of the public crowds who flocked to hear Him speak was different, both in content and in the manner of presentation, than what was taught to the ‘Inner Circle’ of His closest followers…the Apostles and Disciples who lived with Jesus and accompanied Him throughout His public ministry. This group of men and women represented immediate family members…such as St. James the Just, the first Christian Patriarch or Bishop of Jerusalem, who was a step-brother of Jesus (Joseph’s son by his deceased wife prior to wedding Mary the mother of Jesus)…as well as the dearest friends and top students with whom Jesus had the closest…most personal…Living Relationships. 
Who would know better what Jesus really taught privately than those who were actually there! 
It is exactly these individuals who preserved in Blessed Memory the Esoteric Teachings and Methods which they initially received personally from Jesus Himself through Direct Oral Transmission and Ritual Initiation, the latter of which is now called Formal Ordination into Holy Orders. These same individuals in turn passed these Teachings and Methods on to their Initiate Disciples, who in turn passed the Tradition on to their Initiate Disciples, and so forth, down to the Present Time, in the same manner within the unbroken, Authentic Lineage of Apostolic Succession. 
For ANYONE outside this Lineage of Direct Transmission to suggest or to claim that they and their alternative teachings and beliefs represent the most authentic depository of the Ancient Christian Esoteric Tradition, and the most legitimate interpretation of same, is simply not the case…and is therefore correctly identified as False Teaching or Heresy…insofar as they relate to Authentic Christianity. The Lord Jesus has in fact spiritually guided and protected the preservation and transmission of this Tradition within Orthodox Christianity, as evidenced by the historical record which verifies that Orthodoxy has NEVER ADDED TO, NEVER MODIFIED OR REVISED, NEVER REINTERPRETED, AND NEVER EDITED OR SUBTRACTED ANYTHING from the ORIGINAL DIRECT TRANSMISSION received from Jesus. 
Now this IS NOT to say that there is nothing of value in the Gnostic Tradition. I personally have never stated such a belief. I openly accept the logical possibility and the high probability that virtually every spiritual tradition that withstands the acid test of time through history, including the Gnostic Tradition, must contain elements of Eternal Truth and Divine Revelation at the core of their systems to sustain their Traditions over such long periods of time. This makes perfect, rational sense to me.
What doesn’t make rational sense to me, however, as a few ridiculous examples, is that Fundamentalist Protestant Christian Churches have a more accurate perspective on the Teachings, Scriptures, and Traditions of Hinduism or Buddhism than the Hindus and Buddhists themselves do; or similarly, that Hindu or Buddhist Sages, Sadhus, Arhats, and Holy Men are alone privy to the truest interpretation of all religious and spiritual teachings, even outside their own religious schools and traditions! 
By the same logical and rational reckoning, it makes no sense to me that Gnostics, Hindus, Buddhists, or Muslims, are likely to possess a more authentic perspective or a more legitimate teaching regarding the Original Esoteric Christian Tradition than does the Eastern or Greek Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church to whom the Tradition in question was initially given by Jesus Himself! It doesn’t take an Einstein level of intelligence to perceive this as probable fact! 
Christ is Born! Glorify Him!
Happy Holidays!
Doc
Hi All:
Pardon me for interrupting, but sectarian and/or political debates are not part of what we want to be doing in the AYP forums. There are plenty of other places to engage in such discussions.
We are interested in spiritual practices, their conduct, their effects, and optimization of the process of human spiritual transformation for maximum safe progress.
Please note that the name of this forum is “Other Systems of Spiritual Practice.” Discussions on practices are welcome here from any source whatsoever. We can gain a lot from eachother that way. But the sectarian haggling is not welcome at all. We are yogis and yoginis here, and opportunistic ones at that. So we are always looking for useful angles on practice, and not a rehash of the foibles of human history.
As for the dangling discussions on secret codes, inner circles, secret societies and teachings, better to limit those also, because they only reinforce sectarian divides. There is no “us and them” here. Only us.
In AYP we have no secrets! Anyone who wants to mention a secret here, better be prepared to tell it, and in practical terms directly related to the conduct of our daily spiritual practices. That we are very interested in.
Thanks very much for keeping these points in mind.
The guru is in you.
Gentlemen, comparative discussion of religions is of some value to the AYP community, but it can be difficult to discuss matters dear to the heart without getting heated by disagreement. So let’s work as well as we can to get past the acrimony and onto the subject matter. Here are two very good guidelines:
(a) Be fair: Generally speak to those who disagree with you as you would wish the person you disagree with to speak to you
(b) Tolerate unfairness: If the person who you disagree with isn’t being entirely fair, let it slide as far as possible.
(I should credit one of the respondents here, david_obsidian, insofar as I more or less copied that from what he said above.)
That boils down to (a) be as tolerable as possible and (b) be as tolerant as possible.
As you post, please ask yourselves if you are doing (a) and (b) as well as you can. Don’t worry so much about whether the ‘other guy’ is doing it as well as he can – part of (b) is letting stuff slide, within limits.
I’m looking forward to seeing more of the topic itself – if you have any energy for it.
-AYP
P.S. I composed my post as Yogani was replying unbeknownst to me, but I’ll leave my post here for re-inforcement.
Hey, Phillip, I’m not that familiar with the differences between the spiral path and the straight path. I’ve read a couple of articles, here and there, but I was wondering what your take on it was or if you could direct me to a good website that discussed this in detail?
Thank you:
VIL
Namaste Yogani and Moderators!
OK. Fair enough. But these last two posts have created some confusion for me and, combined with previous e-mails to me, have also generated an uncomfortable feeling of a ‘double standard’ at work behind the scenes, so to speak. As a result, I have decided not to submit any further post on this particular thread, unless sufficient clarification resolves these issues.
I was informed, for example, that it would be inappropriate and unacceptable for me to post mention of factually verifiable, undeniably true, documented information regarding an individual such as Osho because it would constitute ‘Guru Bashing’, especially among those who follow his teachings and methods. And yet, someone like Jesus, Who has been considered a genuine Sadguru or Gurudeva and Avatara even among most non-Christian Yoga Sadhakas of the past and present, and His Teachings, are allowed to be the focal point of venomous and hateful ‘Guru Bashing’ on this Forum with little more than more a gentle warning and a light slap on the hand to those who are personally responsible for such disrespect! 
Additionally, I was warned not to post anything which was at variance with AYP teachings and practices so as not to confuse AYP practitioners or generate any doubt in their minds regarding what they have been taught, which request I have made every effort to honor. But it’s OK for overt denigration of Jesus’s character to transpire again and again, and for doubt to be repeatedly raised regarding what constitutes the Correct Doctrine (Orthodoxis) and the Correct Practice (Orthopraxis) of Authentic Christianity. I should simply be tolerant of these things, and let it slide by without responding?
It can’t be both ways and really be fair to all, can it? Jesus doesn’t deserve the same standard of protection, courtesy and respect as Osho does??? Wow! Go figure!
Hari OM!
Doc
You must be the change you wish to see in the world-Mahatma Ghandi
L&L
Dave
Hi Doc:
It isn’t about the people or the doctines here. It isn’t even about being offended or not. It is about the practices, and what we can do with them here and now for best results. That is what we strive for in AYP.
No moderator here is going to play referee in a sectarian fight, real or imagined, nor try and parse every comment that is made. We do not know whose opinion about doctrine is right. It is the obvious excesses and personal attacks that will be regulated. That we do understand. We owe that to all the practitioners who come here looking for support and useful information.
It is up to the participants in this topic to try and make something useful out of it. If there is a sectarian accusation or argument that has to be made, please take it offline. We have a responsibility to all who are dropping in here every day – many who are new visitors. The readership is at least 10 times the membership, and growing all the time. Please keep it in mind.
All ideas can be presented in creative ways that serve the needs of everyone involved. There is no need to offend, or take offense in these public forums. Obviously, we can only control our own side of it, and we should do the best we can with that.
Every tree is known by its own fruit, so extra labeling is not necessary. In extreme cases, the moderators will step in. It is rare around here, so if anyone feels like they are being picked on, better take a good look in the mirror.
If contributions that are useful for practices cannot be offered, then it is probably better to stay away, because the conflicted discussions don’t really help anyone, and, in fact, drive people away. No one is served by that, so we are not going to let it go on for long. That’s just how it is in this kind of environment.
The guru is in you.
According to the gnosis of Samael Aun Weor,
The straight path and the spiral path are most pronounced in Buddhism. These are choices made by Buddhas to either bask in the happiness of Nirvana, or to renounce Nirvana to become a Bodhisattva, which is someone who works for the benefit of all living beings. A bodhisattva works for the liberation of all souls. The former are called Pratyeka Buddhas, or sometimes “selfish buddhas” because they do not help others. The slowly perfect themselves and remove all their karma in the Spiral Path of Nirvana. Every millennium or so they reincarnate, teach a bit, remove some of their remaining karma and then return to Nirvana for another long period of bliss.
Bodhisattvas quickly remove all their karma in a single lifetime and by renouncing Nirvanic bliss, they in fact achieve the right to enjoy supranirvanic bliss after suffering for humanity for many Mahamanvantaras. These are the souls (tathagatas) on the Straight Path.
Mahayana and Tantrayana schools state (among other reasons) that “nirvana is samsara” because for the pratyeka buddhas, they must return to samsara and their karmic ties every so often, even though they are “Nirvanis.” When this happens, they obviously must inhabit a new dense vehicle (body) and develop a personality (a personality is born and dies with each body) in order to interact with the current world. This means that, in the time it takes for the development of the body and the personality (lower vehicles), they can endanger the upper vehicles (atman-buddhi-manas) of becoming once again trapped in deep karmic debts. This apparently happens, especially in the Kali Yuga where materialism and illusion is most dense.
In terms of the Kabbalah, the Straight Path occurs when the human soul, Tiphereth, chooses to undertake the 13 Repentances of Pistis Sophia in order to conquer the 13 Aeons. Through this process Chokmah (Christ, the only begotten “Son of God”) descends into Tiphereth (“Son of Man”), and thus Christ is incarnated in man.
Master Aberamentho (Jesus) came in order to teach men and Gods how to take the Straight Path.
Thanks for that, Phillip, I’ll have to do some research on the subject:
Thanks again!
VIL
Hi Vil,
FYI, I don’t think there is a better site than http://gnosticteachings.org/ . But also, feel free to ask anything here, sometimes a personal answer is much better.
Hi Philip,
I was just wondering how you know that Jesus of Nazareth was Master Aberamentho. Is this channeled information? If it is, do you know who channeled it?
Christi
Although some minor variations of interpretation are found in the Kabbalah literature regarding the Sefirah Tifereth, it is generally identified with the ‘Place of the Heart’ or the ‘Heart Center’, and is thus akin to the ‘Anahata Chakra’ or ‘Heart Chakra’ of the Vedanta/Yoga Tradition.
The Sefirah Tifereth is normally associated with the second aspect of the soul, ‘Ruah’ or ‘Spirit’, sometimes specifically referred to as the ‘Spirit of Intellectual Discernment’, because it enables one to discern the essential natures of ‘good’ and ‘evil’, and their various manifestations.
Thus, when the Sacred Presence of Holy Wisdom and Divine Beauty is established and maintained in the Place of the Heart, Sefirah Tifereth perpetually mediates the soul’s ‘good’ and ‘evil’ polarities by acting as a ‘Central Pillar’…the Moral Foundation of Balanced Discernment…connecting and overseeing both the Rightward Path and the Leftward Path.
In this way, one becomes ever more conscious of that which constitutes the greatest good of self and others, as well as ever more conscious of the evil that potentially threatens the greatest good of self and others. Such Consciousness serves to motivate the soul towards Purity and Righteousness in order to maintain the Divine Presence of Wisdom and Beauty in the Heart Center.
These ideas can also be found in a few Christian Traditions as well. In Western Christianity, this would include the Roman Catholic and Anglican Catholic ‘Devotions to the Sacred Heart of Jesus’ and the ‘Litany of the Sacred Heart of Jesus’. And in Eastern Christianity, these elements are also encountered in the Greek Orthodox ‘Practice of the Prayer of the Heart’ as described in the Philokalia Writings.
Regards ~
Doc
Thanks, Phillip, I appreciate your generosity, and website, and will look it over tomorrow.
Great post, Doc:
No I have never had a hurtful religious upbringing. In fact, I had no religious upbringing. Not that my family was against religion, but lets just say that no-one in my family was ever interested in religion that much. I was born and raised in an Eastern Orthodox Christian country, where congregations and preaching are not common in the churches. Until my spiritual awakening most I have done in a church was light up a candle - and this goes for most people, if they even go to church that is. Now I have lived almost half of my life in a western county and have seen what the churches are being used for - community halls, place to gather, to chat and to meet other people and socialize. They are not being used for inner spiritual development.
I am not against the church and I am not against Christianity. I am against the beliefs of people who style themselves Christian yet do not follow Christ’s teachings with their heart, and who do nothing to bring themselves closer to God. I am against the beliefs of fat priests who claim to represent God, yet they have not even beaten the most basic desire ie. hunger and the desire for taste. I have seen plenty of such priests in the Orthodox churches and on television and I have seen plenty of such people in the west also, from many religious denominations.
And in no way is this directed sarcastically at you Doc. From what I gather you are aware that the infinite cannot be found through the five senses or understood by the mind which processes data collected by the five limited senses. And that we must go beyond the senses and the mind to find the truth of ourselves. Through silence… oops, here comes the preaching again, hahaha.
I consider religions and systems of spiritual practice which teach the seeker to go beyond the senses and the mind to be esoteric - inner spiritual sciences. This is AYP, kabbalah, Sufism, zen buddhism, taoism, theosophy, gnosticism and the ‘Inner Circle’ compilation of esoteric spiritual writings, teachings, and practices of the Eastern Orthodox Church (hesychasm?) that you speak of. I am not against any of these systems because as far as I know all provide a path to the truth. What I am against, is the prominence of the exoteric religions that teach little to no actual spiritual practice. The monastic orders that you speak of are not known about by the general populace, their teachings are not available to all ‘Orthodox’ , I know this for a fact.
These exoteric religions are making a mockery of the Bible by intepreting all of it literally. They make genuine truthseekers like david throw away the baby with the bathtub by making them reject the bible along with their perverted version of Christ’s teaching.
For example: it is not enough to believe in “the only begotten Son” and that he suffered and gave his life on the cross for our salvation. At least it is not enough to believe it in a literal, exoteric sense. In that a man who was the only son of God (and we are just lowly creatures) came and suffered, for you and me, was nailed to the cross and was resurrected. It is all possible (although God does not have children because God does not reproduce for God already is everything, ofcourse, not everything is God), but I personally cannot know for sure if it truly happened, not two thousand years ago. I don’t think you can either unless only through spiritual abilities. If I were to believe in that it would be called blind faith, and this leads to degradation. But if we believe that it is possible for us to imbody pure consciousness, to nurture the inner Christ within all of us through specific spiritual practice (which alot of times is suffering and pain), to become indifferent to this physical body for the development of our chakras and kundalini (aka putting our physical body on the spiritual cross) in order to achieve unity with infinity… and have portions of this belief be constantly verified through direct experience, then we are bound to find the truth.
As a result of this thread I have been reading some of the gnostic teachings and noticed that a variety of traditions are being quoted in support of the material presented. From what I gather so far it is a universal teaching. No trace of sectarianism. I think you should not be against Gnosticism as much as you should be against the prominence of exoteric ‘Christianity’. Even if some gnostics claim that they have the authentic keys to deciphering the bible (a claim which we cannot accept or reject with certainty just like we cannot know whether the Lineage of Apostolic Succession has really remained authentic, withstanding modification during two thousand years of Direct Oral Transmission and Ritual Initiation) there are still way more similarities between gnosticism and AYP and hesychasm than between gnosticism, AYP, hesychasm and the mainstream exoteric religions.
PS. I went to an Orthodox church yesterday and put up two candles. One for Love and one for Peace. I love you my friends. And I apologize for my aggressive methods of delivery. The demons have alot of sway over me, still, so I’m quite someways away from being a humble servant-of-God but we shall indeed be the change we wish to see in the world.
Chiron, your better delivery makes all the difference in the world. Doc, if you find it imperfect still, I’d entreat you to focus on the improvement and encourage it.
From what I gather so far it is a universal teaching. No trace of sectarianism.
Where there is sectarianism, sometimes, there is sectarianism in teachings themselves, but often the teachings are not sectarian but the practicioners are very much so. So if you (not Chiron in particular) follow non-sectarian teachings, don’t think that makes you free of it, because sectarianism is a human problem, like anger and hate and prejudice.
Until ‘grace’ removes them, these tendencies will be there to an extent. So the best we can do is improve our ‘grace’ by best spiritual practices on the one hand, and on the other give our ‘ungrace’ as little say in our outward behavior as possible, and our ‘grace’ as much say as is possible. That’s the two-pronged inner and outer solution. An online forum is good training for the outer solution in a number of ways. It has the effect of making things and people seem even more outrageous, but it has the advantage of giving us time to think before we reply and make ourselves a good example of the outer solution.
Greetings to All!
Great post, David. Tell it, Bubba…tell it! You da man! 
Chiron:
Thanks for sharing your previous experiences with us. It sure sounds like a “bad church experience” to me. Sadly, this kind of experience is not uncommon anywhere. It is the exact reason why so many people in Western Culture, especially Europe and the Americas, are attracted to Zen Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and a wide variety of other non-Christian religious and spiritual paths.
Ironically, it is also the exact same reason why so many people in India and the Orient are attracted to Christianity, Islam, and a host of other non-Buddhist…non-Eastern religious and spiritual paths! In either case, I’ll bet that the vast majority of these people, in both Eastern and Western Cultures, are rejecting the unpleasant experiences of their contact with the formal religious institutions, not necessarily the person of Christ, Moses, Krishna, or Buddha, and perhaps not the Spiritual Teachings of the Bible, Torah, Vedas, or Sutras. 
In my own spiritual search, I have made observations like yours at every conceivable variety of church, synagogue, temple, zendo, mosque, monastery, ashram, etc. People are usually much the same everywhere, and “a few bad apples always spoil the lot”, no matter what their ‘brand’ of religion. I recently spotted a couple of automobile bumper-stickers which read: “I’m cool with Christ…but I have a problem with some of his followers”…and “Jesus loves you, and I’m trying to”.
In the end, however, we must realize that the faults and short-comings of other people are external factors, resulting from human imperfections combined with spiritual immaturity, that are found everywhere that people congregate, whether for religious worship or any other group activity. To judge the inherent value of any religious path by these externals alone, or to assume what the spiritual potential of its teachings and practices will be by observing the ‘official card carrying membership’, is destined to be a less than favorable observation in most instances.
When you enter a Church Temple, and light a candle in the Narthex, remember that the purpose in being there is a spiritual reason, to nurture your Soul with Unconditional Divine Love, to feel Eternal Hope and Increased Trust (Faith) in the Compassion and Mercy of Divine Providence to forsee our needs and to answer our call, to find an increased capacity for Forgiveness of self and others, specifically by establishing a personal, mystical relationship with God…through Christ.
The social, political, economic, judgemental human externals need to be left at the door! This is why God told Moses to “remove your sandals, for you are standing on Holy Ground”. That’s why many ethnic Orthodox leave their shoes at the front door. This practice is also common at Hindu and Buddhist Temples, Islamic Mosques, and other places of religious worship throughout the world.
Look past the people, and their many imperfections and contradictions, in order to peek behind the veil of the iconostasis into the Sanctuary of God’s Holy House…for it is there that the Revelation of Mysteries is revealed, and there that the soul is comforted and nourished. When there is also an opportunity for pleasant fellowship with other others in the Church Hall afterwards, then well and good, but we don’t come to the Church Temple primarily for that.
Lastly, the esoteric books and writings are in fact available to all, but unless one already knows what to look for, will probably only be found in the Church or Monastery library. These works don’t ever make it onto the New York Times Best-Seller List!
Christ is Born! Glorify Him!
Doc
In Gnosticism, Aberamentho is the Name (Word, Logos) of the Monad who’s son had the terrestrial name of Jesus, or Yeshua. This is the name used in Pistis Sophia books, for example.
In esotericism, there is what is called “esoteric age.” One’s esoteric age may be 100, 200, 300, 5000 years old, etc. See These are, by the way, the esoteric meaning of many of the ages listed in the Old Testament, which can be used to understand certain when and how aspects of the path of the self realization of being occurs. Aberamentho’s “esoteric age” would probably be a whole order of magnitude beyond any other monad in the “corner” of the universe, and is referred to by Samael Aun Weor as a Paramarthasatya, a monad whose natural center of gravity is the Ain (Absolute Abstract Space). He is a very special case, has He left the Ain in order to manifest specifically for the sake of this humanity, due its profound suffering and special “karma of the gods.” He personally integrated his astral body with the earth in order to aid it, thus he really is the savior of this world. Yet, only if one knows how to make use of “gold” can one truly be rich. If you possess a pot of gold but you do not know the true value of it, then really it is valueless.
The following is a quote from the Pistis Sophia, with kabbalistic commentaries made in parenthesis:
See this glossary for finding your way through these Hebrew terms: http://www.gnosticteachings.org/component/option,com_glossary/Itemid,115/
These quotes are taken straight off the title page of Book II, Part II: “Esoteric Tenets Corroborated in Every Scripture”, of the Secret Doctrine by H.P.B. ( http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-2-01.htm ). There one can find IMMENSE information, if one knows how to read it. One really needs to know quite a bit before even having the ability to digest the information on these pages, thus, in my opinion, is the reason why the content of these pages is largely ignored by common man and woman.
In these pages one will find that Sacred Phallism is central to the Bible and to, indeed, the entire Jewish religion (Vol. 2, Page 471). That the Star of David is a tantric symbol (Vol. 2, Page 592).
Read the following if you are interested in the actual quote:
Now, concerning the tantrism of the “Star of David” and the “Cross,” we can read the following:
H.P.B. does not mention that Sixth Arcanum of the Tarot is also related with tantrism, see:
http://www.gnosticteachings.org/courses/twenty-two-arcana/arcanum-6-indecision.html
http://www.gnosticteachings.org/courses/twenty-two-arcana/arcanum-6-transcription.html
All of this gives us tremendous information to meditate upon, to extract the conscious values found therein and deposit them within the depths of our personal consciousness.
According to ancient traditions that exist throughout the world, and with my own personal experience, to cross the lingam and yogi, to sing the mantras such as I. A. O., and to disconnect without having reached orgasm or ejaculation is the highest form of sexual transmutation. The essential thing is to never loose a drop of semen, or to waste the sexual energy in any form. This is why anuttarayoga tantra, the Highest Yoga Tantra of Tibet, outlined in the Kalachakra literature, states that one must NEVER loose the sexual energy. Let us remember, for those of us who have read some Theosophical texts, H.P.B. was undeniably in connection with Kalachakra in some form, this is how she wrote The Voice of the Silence which has very similar wording to the aforementioned sacred text.
Hi Chiron,
Great post, it was a joy to read.
I really don’t think we need to be “against” anything. It takes so much energy that could be used for much more positive things. Once we start being against something, the list of things that we could be against is almost endless. Everyone is working out their own karma, and they are doing what they need to do, as we are. I once heard that when we reach a fairly high stage on the path we enter the causal realms where we are able to directly change the world and history merely by using our thought. “Wow” I thought, “I can’t wait to get to that stage, there are so many terrible things that I want to change about the world”. Then I heard that once we reach that stage, we realize that everything in creation is perfect, and is happening for a reason, and we wouldn’t want to change a single thing. I thought I’d throw this in, as it gives a different angle on being “against” something. If God is letting something happen, he might just have a reason that he isn’t telling us.
Now you’re talking . This is where we need to put all our energies.
Christi