Great post Bodhi 
So the general consensus is there no ultimate enlightenment because it keeps increasing forever?
Hi Sprechnd, welcome to the forum and this House of Mirrors! 
Yogani and all, what are your thoughts on Paramahansa Yogananda’s teacher Sri Yukteswar’s explanation of enlightenment in Autobiography of a Yogi?
Here is the link to the whole thing: http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/chap43.php
I find it very interesting and logical and am super curious of your opinions. What I get from it is there is different levels if liberation. Liberation from the material realm/physical body is only one level. Then we have to liberate ourselves from the astral and causal bodies. He does seem to indicate there is an Absolute Freedom, or ultimate enlightenment. Thoughts?
Here’s some excerpts related to enlightenment:
"Many beings remain for thousands of years in the causal cosmos. By deeper ecstasies the freed soul then withdraws itself from the little causal body and puts on the vastness of the causal cosmos. All the separate eddies of ideas, particularized waves of power, love, will, joy, peace, intuition, calmness, self-control, and concentration melt into the ever-joyous Sea of Bliss. No longer does the soul have to experience its joy as an individualized wave of consciousness, but is merged in the One Cosmic Ocean, with all its waves-eternal laughter, thrills, throbs.
“When a soul is out of the cocoon of the three bodies it escapes forever from the law of relativity and becomes the ineffable Ever-Existent.10 Behold the butterfly of Omnipresence, its wings etched with stars and moons and suns! The soul expanded into Spirit remains alone in the region of lightless light, darkless dark, thoughtless thought, intoxicated with its ecstasy of joy in God’s dream of cosmic creation.”
“A free soul!” I ejaculated in awe.
“When a soul finally gets out of the three jars of bodily delusions,” Master continued, "it becomes one with the Infinite without any loss of individuality. Christ had won this final freedom even before he was born as Jesus. In three stages of his past, symbolized in his earth-life as the three days of his experience of death and resurrection, he had attained the power to fully arise in Spirit.
“The undeveloped man must undergo countless earthly and astral and causal incarnations in order to emerge from his three bodies. A master who achieves this final freedom may elect to return to earth as a prophet to bring other human beings back to God, or like myself he may choose to reside in the astral cosmos. There a savior assumes some of the burden of the inhabitants’ karma11 and thus helps them to terminate their cycle of reincarnation in the astral cosmos and go on permanently to the causal spheres. Or a freed soul may enter the causal world to aid its beings to shorten their span in the causal body and thus attain the Absolute Freedom.”
“So long as the soul of man is encased in one, two, or three body-containers, sealed tightly with the corks of ignorance and desires, he cannot merge with the sea of Spirit. When the gross physical receptacle is destroyed by the hammer of death, the other two coverings-astral and causal-still remain to prevent the soul from consciously joining the Omnipresent Life. When desirelessness is attained through wisdom, its power disintegrates the two remaining vessels. The tiny human soul emerges, free at last; it is one with the Measureless Amplitude.”
“In thirty-five thought categories of the causal body, God elaborated all the complexities of man’s nineteen astral and sixteen physical counterparts. By condensation of vibratory forces, first subtle, then gross, He produced man’s astral body and finally his physical form. According to the law of relativity, by which the Prime Simplicity has become the bewildering manifold, the causal cosmos and causal body are different from the astral cosmos and astral body; the physical cosmos and physical body are likewise characteristically at variance with the other forms of creation.
The fleshly body is made of the fixed, objectified dreams of the Creator. The dualities are ever-present on earth: disease and health, pain and pleasure, loss and gain. Human beings find limitation and resistance in three-dimensional matter. When man’s desire to live is severely shaken by disease or other causes, death arrives; the heavy overcoat of the flesh is temporarily shed. The soul, however, remains encased in the astral and causal bodies.7 The adhesive force by which all three bodies are held together is desire. The power of unfulfilled desires is the root of all man’s slavery.”
“Physical death is attended by the disappearance of breath and the disintegration of fleshly cells. Astral death consists of the dispersement of lifetrons, those manifest units of energy which constitute the life of astral beings. At physical death a being loses his consciousness of flesh and becomes aware of his subtle body in the astral world. Experiencing astral death in due time, a being thus passes from the consciousness of astral birth and death to that of physical birth and death. These recurrent cycles of astral and physical encasement are the ineluctable destiny of all unenlightened beings. Scriptural definitions of heaven and hell sometimes stir man’s deeper-than-subconscious memories of his long series of experiences in the blithesome astral and disappointing terrestrial worlds.”
"Physical desires are rooted in egotism and sense pleasures. The compulsion or temptation of sensory experience is more powerful than the desire-force connected with astral attachments or causal perceptions.
"Astral desires center around enjoyment in terms of vibration. Astral beings enjoy the ethereal music of the spheres and are entranced by the sight of all creation as exhaustless expressions of changing light. The astral beings also smell, taste, and touch light. Astral desires are thus connected with an astral being’s power to precipitate all objects and experiences as forms of light or as condensed thoughts or dreams.
"Causal desires are fulfilled by perception only. The nearly-free beings who are encased only in the causal body see the whole universe as realizations of the dream-ideas of God; they can materialize anything and everything in sheer thought. Causal beings therefore consider the enjoyment of physical sensations or astral delights as gross and suffocating to the soul’s fine sensibilities. Causal beings work out their desires by materializing them instantly.8 Those who find themselves covered only by the delicate veil of the causal body can bring universes into manifestation even as the Creator. Because all creation is made of the cosmic dream-texture, the soul thinly clothed in the causal has vast realizations of power.
"A soul, being invisible by nature, can be distinguished only by the presence of its body or bodies. The mere presence of a body signifies that its existence is made possible by unfulfilled desires.9
Haha, a house of mirrors indeed brother! Thanks and it’s great to be here. I can already tell just reading through a few threads this place is awesome.
I have found the 3-layered template of causal, astral, and physical to be helpful. In some sense, Deep Meditation is going beyond all three to the omnipresent stillness which will always be. Spinal Breathing Pranayama is dealing with both physical and energetic bodies, because breath and life force are intimately intertwined. Samyama is drawing from causality because the release of sutras (seed ideas) has the co-creative power of manifesting desires.
So, all the bases are covered in AYP!
Thanks for posting that passage. I love that chapter. 
I think that is a really good way of putting it.
Eh. Could be!
Maybe it’s like how there is also no highest musical note or highest frequency color or light because there can be an infinitely high frequency or waves per second. Just a thought, might not be relevant to enlightenment though.
An enlightened person is somebody who can make their brainwaves halt and resemble the heart beat. This is very clearly shown by an electroencephalograph.
More advanced practitioners who are not yet enlightened would display a high frequency of delta, theta and alpha brain wave patterns.
These studies have not yet been completed with AYP practitioners 
In my opinion a person can not be enlightened. Enlightenment can be there ( but never comes to an end) but is not for the person and as soon as it is put in words it is not the freedom of enlightenment anymore, but it is a challenge to talk about it here… 
@ Sprechnd, I read an interesting book from A.E. Powell “The Causal Body”, I found it on the internet, I read it in Dutch but if you are interested you can probably find it in English as well. Very clear written!
I love the passage from The Autobiography of Yogananda too!
Dear Sprechnd, as a former member of SRF for many years, I disagree with the fundamental premise of the soul being “trapped” or “encased in” the bodies. It involves a dualism which is also reflected in SRF’s negative view of sexuality as anti-spiritual. The SRF kriya practice works in a similar manner as AYP spinal breathing, but I find the AYP approach overall is more balanced.
It’s nothing to discuss. It’s before the concepts. It’s so simple. It’s nothing.