Alvin said:
This lack of evolutionary drive may be weakening us.
That’s true – the big question is, how far will it go?
And there are major stressors ahead for society as Science begins to prove beyond doubt what the effect of particular genes is, and how powerful they are.
What happens in the long run is anyone’s guess.
David wrote
Right. We probably will have some scientific breakthrough on the understanding and manipulation of human genes. If not, the lack of evolutionary drive can weaken us quite a lot as time goes by. Unless there are some policy on birth control as related to health status, intelligence, educational background (like Singapore which have some policies which favour the children of Degree holder)! But such policies are against the moral standard of most liberal, modern countries.
The fall of many ancient civilizations may give us some insights on how far it can go. I am over-simplifying by ignoring other factors, but evolution does explain a lot. Especially the fall of the nobles throughout the history who have very little evolutionary drive.
The lessons for those civilizations may be: disappearing forever! So at last the “bad” genes" are eliminated. But we, because of our secure system and technology, can live and breed regardless of our genes. So…
Sometimes I imagine a possible future (of course it’s not even a guess, just an imagination) of mankind: they will be living in a heaven (??) where they will be fed by technology of their past (ie. OUR present technological breakthroughs) they never care to understand. And what they have to do, actively, are just : have sex, eat, sleep, have sex, eat,… sleep,…
On this you can check out the book by A. Huxley called ‘Brave new world’ - he is musing on exactly this type of society.
Alvin said:
And what they have to do, actively, are just : have sex, eat, sleep, have sex, eat,… sleep,…
Such a society would do a lot more than that! What about create, and enjoy creation (art, music, literature, science, nature), Meditate, philosophize, go hiking in the hills, explore the oceans, do yoga, dance, worship, sing, laugh, form clubs and societies…
Put everything you think is good into the list!
Alvin said:
they never care to understand
I think they would care to understand. Life loves to grow and expand. When someone has a capability, and they are healthy, they love to use it.
Lili said:
On this you can check out the book by A. Huxley called ‘Brave new world’ - he is musing on exactly this type of society.
I would say not at all. His book portrays a society that is highly genetically aware, but is as far from heaven as you could imagine. I think his book is largely a warning against becoming genetically aware, or at least, against acting from that awareness.
Much as if, before humans developed the science of Fire, a novelist who disapproved of fire might write a book in which people did use fire, and in the book, everyone burns to death at some point.
Such a novelist might call his book, 'Fire – the Warm New World". 
Dearest
may this old thread finds you embraced in throbbing love and compassion from within!
Just writhing to give another perspective on this 3 issues from my personal experience and although i have not gone into much depths with them my positive experience might be of some interest.
i have stoped all practices few years back as my life became alive and vibrant, joy in itself…recently while witnessing my deep breathing and retention have started to encounter flames of shakty and her marvel. Decided to find more, she led my to this forum and to realization of kumbakha. To my observance same awakening happens in asanas when streching and RELAXING into it.
Witnessing is the key and there is not supposed to be any hardship.
So thirdly -Amaroli was completely new term for me and i gave it a go to see what is it all about. Must say that such strong energy enhancement have not expected and that it works wonder with no negative effects whatsoever. Of course witnessing helps as mind gives so many silly ideas especially the first time.
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