Gurunath - an experience report from 2013

Thanks, Holy for yet another wonderful post! I’ve started watching Gurunath’s YouTube videos because of your posts.Your experiences are out of this world. You sound really advanced. Good Luck on your journey!
Sunyata :slight_smile:

Hey Holy,
your posts are slowly becoming annoying. I get envious more and more. :wink: :smiling_imp: :wink: But please keep them coming, they´re such a wonderful wonderful inspiration. You are one of the few persons on the internet posting such vibrant experience reports. I love them so much. :slight_smile:
I can only repeat myself, thank you yogani and all the posters for this awesome forum! :heart:
You mention Gurunaths wife. Out of curiosity, do you know if she also practices her husbands Kriya?
I think I´m going to give Gurunaths Kriya a second chance soon. Maybe what led to my overload was too many Omkars and Shiva Shaktis right from the beginning and maybe too few Mahamudras. I will reduce everything right from the start but maybe add more Mahamudras?
I only did 1 Mahamudra for 12 Shiva Shakti breaths since this is the normal ratio, right?
In another thread Experientialknowing mentions that KYI advises to do at least 3 Mahamudras per session.
Do you know what the effect of Mahamudra is? Does it make kundalini rise or does it harmonize the energy flow created by the practices done before in the same session? E.g. in Gurunaths Kriya Omkar and Shiva Shakti are done before Mahamudra. Have you in the past increased the number of Mahamudras without increasing the number of Shiva Shakti Kriyas? If so, what was the effect?
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12849&whichpage=6&SearchTerms=mahamudra
Experientialknowing writes „Mahamudra which keeps the spine healthy and supple and balances energy currents in the body.“ Then again he writes „Lahiri Mahasaya did not always teach everyone the same Kriyas some did not receive Navi Kriya at first SOME DID NOT RECEIVE MAHAMUDRA„ „Some were told to practice hundreds of Pranayama. Some were told to practice Mahamudra only.“
Somewhere else I think you Holy wrote Mahamudra makes Kundalini rise…so I don´t know what to do because I somewhat fear the consequences.
If it makes Kundalini rise then I should do max. 1 per 12 Shiva Shaktis, if it harmonizes and distributes the energies I probably should do as Experientialknowing mentions and do at least 3 of them even if I restart practice with only 3 Shiva Shaktis… Does anyone have any hints for me?
Has Gurunath ever mentioned that increasing the count of Mahamudra could be beneficial?

Hi orangesky,
thanks, you are one of those who value the reports, like I did back then when they were missing, therefore big welcome friend! :smiley:
And surely, thanks to Yogani these things are easily possible now :slight_smile:
Regarding his wife, I do not know if she practices it or practiced it, but I’m sure she has become a powerful realized woman by the help of her husband within the years of their marriage. It is often said, that women rarely reach godrealization by spiritual practice, but more through devotion, surrender and their karma yoga. Together with the grace and supreme aura of someone like Gurunath, even without doing anything you are in paradise. One satsang with him uplifts more than several months of normal kriya practice. Living with him day and night, lucky woman. But also lucky Gurunath to find such a woman, in India this may be possible :stuck_out_tongue:
The samadhi boy practices at least three maha mudras per session independent of the 12:1 ratio, but I do not know how he handles it at home. Most probably he is practicing crazy amounts anyway and may do the according number of maha mudras. Gurunath does not mention anything regarding that, except in 2009 he said, that if the body-mind is very stiff, one may practice 6 maha mudras before starting with the regular routine. I had imbalances with less maha mudras in the beginning, therefore for me it is a must. With it everything is smooth, without it even 1-2 days are enough to create imbalances. For a limited period of time, the body can handle a session without maha mudra (stealth kriya style) if the other session of that day has maha mudra in it.
The other question EK may answer better :slight_smile: But I think Lahiri not giving maha mudra was a rare case for incapable people, perhaps very old ones.
And yes, Gurunath repeated the last time again, that maha mudra makes kundalini rise, but also balance the flow of lifeforce within the whole body-mind and that it is very important.
All in all you may profit from a masterly boost most, dissolving some strange obstructions in the flow of life within the body-mind. Also practicing for some days with e.g. the samadhi boy would work out nicely :wink: I think he will give a weekend workshop two weeks later ^^
Peace and happy smooth practice! (=

@amuhai
welcome to the forums (=
@Bodhi
welcome as always =)
@Sunyata
thank you very much, also the best for you! :slight_smile:
The world is small anyway :wink:

Holy
Thanks for sharing. Just reading gives the goose bumps.
Blessings
PKJ

Thanks again Holy for your very informative and helpful answer.
I will give it a try and slightly increase the number of Mahamudras and will carefully observe the effect.
If I feel I`m on the right track I will definitely go and see the samadhi boy again. I want to meditate in the cave. :slight_smile:
He showed it to me (opened the trap door) but damn was it cold down there :astonished: at least in early spring… this cave greatly added to the authentic atmosphere there at his yoga school. I would really look forward to go there again.
And you may be right about Lahiri Mahasaya not giving Mahamudra… I haven´t thought about physiological reasons.

I have never read that Lahiri Mahasaya didn’t teach Maha Mudra. Where does this info come from EK?
I only read that he instructed not to teach retention of the breath during Maha M. to people with lungs problems.

Hi Will Power that was something I read and as it turns out the source was not reliable. Apologies for the confusion.
For the Record Maha Mudra is and always has been taught as part of Kriya by the Lahiri family.
That author was trying be authoritative and I was a fool for trusting it and acting like a parrot.
Have since verified this first hand learning from Shibenduji directly.
Just another reason to throw away the books. Just another reason to learn in person see even a sincere Kriyaban makes mistakes.

I disagree, books are very good motivators when your teacher is far away.

I agree the motivation is good the misinformation however is terrible.
You have taken the time and have learned in person. There is a difference between one who has learned in person and one who has not.
If you disagree then I will only say that your opinion is respected and accepted but do not share it. :pray:

Holy
Thanks for your experiences posted. They motivate me.

I’ve met Gurunath only once and here are some of the things I’ve experienced:
Being next to him was like going into deep meditation, he has the ability to still people’s minds.
Whenever talking to him I always felt that he already knew what I was going to say, many times it was enough to just think something and he would know it – there was no need to talk.
He knew what was going on at the ashram without being physically present, how big this area of perception is I don’t know, but its large.
The only negative thing I found was that there were quite a few dogmatic or fanatical people around him who thought they have found the only right way, but I guess this happens with every teacher and spiritual community to some degree.
Ok this description is not as detailed as Holy’s experiences but at least its something. :slight_smile:

Thanks Chiron,
your perception is in tune with mine and practically all I have met who have been with Gurunath.
Wanted to share one newly published youtube-video of him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y1Jhv2rPh8
All love :heart: and happy practice friends! :slight_smile:

Hi all,
after nearly two years of not visiting my beloved Gurunath, life gracefully allows it again this month :slight_smile:
Cannot describe the joy of Gurunath, the king of joy! :smiley:
Happy practice to all (=

Some quotes:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46113602/Gurunath/Gurunath%205yr.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46113602/Gurunath/Nath-Quote2.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46113602/Gurunath/Nath-Quote4.jpg

Moderator note: Topic moved for better placement

Hi Holy,
Seeing Gurunath again, maybe u’d like some questions to put to him (if u haven’t got enough of ur own!)?
I’d b interested to hear what he has to say about:
1- the spiritual purpose of hair
2- fluoridated water
3- what is actually happening when one is grounded and connected to the earth
This came onto his uTube a couple of weeks and the transmission part unexpectedly had a big impact!
http://youtu.be/g7JHcOM2VS0

Hi BeezBuzz,
have never asked general questions so far, only asked practice related questions. But Gurunath has a tendency to answer questions of the minds, therefore will reread your questions the day before going and keep them vibrant for some time so that he can catch them :wink: Is this okay for you? :slight_smile:
Okay watched the video now:
Amazing, thank you very much!!! :smiley: I know why I love this man :smiley: :smiley: Didn’t read your sentence above the link before watching, this transmission is called Shivapath, direct no-mind!
All love :smiley:

Sounds great, thanks!