Hi Cosmic
Whenever I go to bed I always experience ecstatic currents going from the bottom of my spine and upwards. On days where I meditated too much the energy would get stuck in my head and I would be completely disoriented if I closed my eyes. It felt like I would leave my body and not knowing how to come back.
This does not happen anymore (not even when I had the sunburn that I talk about in Satsang cafe).
Another thing:
For the past 2 years I have experienced (once in a while) that I wake up (usually close to morning) bathing in a wonderful lovefeeling. It originates in my chest and is accompanied by a barely audible “hum” - a vibration of love that fills the room and envelops me in…there is really no word for it. It always makes me feel totally protected, absolutely and unconditionally loved, and the afterglow of it lasts through the rest of the day. I try not to think about it - I simply bathe in it and am grateful for the experience.
So yes,- the current knows what it is doing; it wants - by all means - to mate our stillness. The only problem is that our nervous system might not be ready for its surge. Hence all the talk about self pacing.
It is my experience that slowing down when it is needed pays back tenfold.
May all your Nows be Here
Hi Katrine,
What a beautiful experience you describe. I hope to have that feeling someday 
Katrine wrote:
"It originates in my chest and is accompanied by a barely audible “hum” "
i sometimes experience almost the same, but I don’t think as smooth as you are describing. probably my system isn’t as cleared out as yours. Sort of a ‘wake up’ energy with me.
Have you ever tried listening and following that “Hum” sound?
Hi Ether
You wrote: “Have you ever tried listening and following that “Hum” sound?”
Yes. The sound is there all the time (but not as “audible” as the experience above). I have checked…it is the same note (or more like the sound of a struck string) all the time (actually I hear 4 different notes when the room is still, but the “hum” one is the…grunntone…I don’t know the English word for it; in music, it is the main tone around which everything in the piece is centered. The “grunntone” of the G major scale is G. What do you call it?
The sound is what first came to me and gave me the first ecstatic experience. It came and went and then stayed for good. The “grunntone” is the only one that sounds like a string vibrating.
May all your Nows be Here
Hi Katrine, I’ll just jump in, not to disrupt your discussion, to say that the “grunntone” is called fundamental tone in English, the other tones derived from it are overtones. Exiting again…
That’s right up my alley as I used to play music.
You also may be referring to the tonic note. The translator says that is
“styrkemiddelet” in norwegian.
[this isn’t right; see the next post]
When you play just one note, the fundamental is the main tone you hear, and harmonics or overtones are mathematical multiples of the fundamental. If you mix a fundamental with harmonics they just blend in and sound like they are adding character to the tone although they are twice or three times the frequency.
The tonic is a particular note or chord that is returned to in a song, and it feels like home. The piece sounds unresolved until it returns to the tonic.
Oh Ether…you are wonderful! You had me in stitches… 
Your translator is a computer…not unlike our head when it stands on one leg thinking it is it
What you refer to (the tonic) is “Tonika” in Norwegian. It is - like you said - the “home chord”. However; “styrkemiddel” in Norwegian is simply a tonic…something you drink for extra strength. LOL
The irony of it all is of course that the sound I hear turned out to be the only true strength remedy: Strength itself.
I hereby transfer all my love through the ether to you!!!
May all your Nows be Here
ha ha that’s hilarious- and a little embarassing. 
Good thing you write english! I’m one of those dumb westerners who is only fluent in one language.
So which meaning is the main sound you hear? tonika or fundamental?
But what I am really getting at is I wonder if you might be hearing the AUM sound? It is the sound from God from which all creation comes (“In the beginning was the word”). My SRF lessons tell me each chakra has a sound and it is good to hear and follow any one of them, but if you hear the AUM sound you don’t need to hear anything else, as it is the source.
Ether
Good! There is - in reality - only one language anyway. Go ahead with your fluency! 
Fundamental. The tone I hear is an F. (Or rather…it is not a plain F…it is a full sound. It is coming, coming, coming…I can’t explain it in words…)
Ether…I don’t know. But let me tell you something awsome:
I didn’t see your reply above (which you posted on the 26th) until today (march 1th). That is strange, considering I have checked for new posts every day since I got back from the mountains.
Well - yesterday something happened. The sound became completely audible (like the episodes I told you about in the mornings in bed - the lovefeeling in my chest). It now matters not whether there are other sounds (ordinary sounds)in the room. The vibrating F permeats through them. Thinking back, I am sure this started with an ecstatic experience I had up in the mountains this week.
This morning, something else happened. I woke up to the sound. It was completely clear that it originates in my heart chakra. The source of it finds a portal there. I feel it radiating from a glow in my spine. It extends outwards, backwards, downwards and upwards (or : front, back, top, bottom).
Another thing: If I sing it (on an m); when I stop the singing - the room reverbates with the sound. It is…oh, I can’t explain… 
I tried to meditate with a mantra this morning. It was impossible - completely out of place…it felt meaningless and superficial. The sound wants me to hear it. So I relaxed…and let myself be embraced by it. This immediately results in ecstacy. I have a question for Yogani here:
There is no limit now to how high I can go with this sound. But I am a little hesitant…if I let go all the way; will I harm myself? Am I ready for this, or should I still only do 10 min meditation and 5 min pranayama (I love pranayama). And should I “hold back” while meditating?
Also: Since the sound is there all the time: how to self-pace?
The way I perceive it, this sound affects three centers primarily: The heart, the third eye and the navel (and also chakra no 2). I have a feeling that if I can manage to rest in the heart while I listen to it, no harm will be done. The reason I feel this is that since the sound became audible, the pressure in my head has changed. I now have an…edge…no, a barrier right where the spinal flow forks into two. This…juncture…now takes all the pressure. It is as if it vacuums to itself all of the energy. It is not at all painful. Just…hard. At the same time my whole spine is glowing…everything is ok there.
What is SRF lessons? If each chakra has a sound, what is the F equivalent to?
I don’t know if it is the AUM sound (then again, I am an illitarate on this); but maybe this is why I had trouble with the mantra (I am)?
Another thing: Last year I recorded I peice by Knut Nystedt (Norwegian choir composer). The CD was released this spring (Immortal Nystedt (2L)) The peice was: “In the beginning was the word”
Ether! I think it is great (grace) that I didn’t read your post until after this happened. This way I was completely unbiased.
Thank you!
May all your Nows be Here
Thank you for being understanding about language. I do understand spanish also but don’t speak it very well, but Norwegian is only in my DNA!
I think you may be having trouble with the mantra because creating words is a lower form than listening to creation sounds. I think we are all trying to get to where you are with the mantra. So I wouldn’t worry about that. I have heard we get to a point with the mantra where the mantra is saying us rather than the other way around. So you may be there.
The SRF lessons are writings by Yogananda. I would have to look up that lesson as I don’t remember which one it is. But the chakras aren’t different tones. One lower chakra sounds like a bee buzzing, one higher one sounds like bells ringing, and there are other sounds. But what Yogananda’s lesson said was to listen to the sound without analyzing, and follow it. If you hear the lower chakras it’s OK because they all lead to the AUM sound.
I don’t have time now, but you should be able to google “chakras and sound”
on the net. Maybe tonight I can do it. Once you hear the AUM sound, you don’t need anything else, as it connects to God.
I hope Yogani will see your post and answer about practices, but I would guess you should do spinal breathing. People who have had trouble with kundalini energy usually have too much going UP and not coming back DOWN,
so spinal breathing helps balance that.
It sounds wonderful what is happening to you!!
Are you a recording engineer? I studied that a couple years, and have a
friend here with a recording studio.
Katrine, i love you:) this is my first post. i had to reply because i beleive from what you say that you are most certainly merging with the Om; the flow of Prana from whence all creation springs. yes! let its irresistable embrace wrap you in Bliss! i practice Kriya Yoga thru the hOMe foundation. check it out for info on Om. how wonderful for you!
i’m 44 too… 2/3/62 alan
Welcome alan
Welcome to the forum Alan Keep posting
RICHARD
Ether wrote:
Nope. I sing. And play flute. This was a choir recording in surround. When I sang it (1 1/2 year ago) I had a broken ankle (skiing) and was in a plaster for 9 weeks. Boy - did I learn to sit down and do nothing The recording was…a strong experience (done in a church in Oslo)
Alan!
Welcome.
Wilkommen.
Bienvenue.
Velkommen.
Yes. I will let myself embrace [:I just want to hear what Yogani says first. In the mean time I am embraced by you. Thank you. And I will check out the )]hOMe page (I like that…HOME).
Kriya yoga…I don’t know what it is. I’ll have to surf the net.
May all your Nows be Here
I have just red the following on OM (or AUM):
http://www.mandalayoga.net/index.php?rub=newsletter_en&p=mantra_om
I don’t know what to say…
I am stunned.
Alan. Ether. I think you must be right. I reckognized SO many aspects from what I read.
Well.
I think I need to explain myself a little here. Yes - what is happening to me IS wonderful. I bathe in it. But you see, it is so wonderful that it completely shuts me up 
. I am SO CALM. It is a very…special mix: Ecstacy…yet calmness. I don’t know what to say. It shuts me up.
May all your Nows be Here
Melissa wrote:
“You’ve really never heard of Kriya?”
I know SO little about Yoga…it is embarrasing. I know there are different directions in Yoga…but not what they are. The few assanas I did when I was 18 was from a book. You’ll have to excuse me…I will catch up through the internet.
May all your Nows be Here
Hi Katrine and all.
See my comments today on nada (inner sound) versus mantra meditation here: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=860
Let me add that if the sound/energy is taking us up and out the crown, we will be wise to do some grounding instead, as discussed in lesson 69. If we go high without a gradual buildup and balancing of the energy over time, there can be the classic kundalini overdose syndrome. It is rare to have all of a sudden up and out one time and “they all lived happily ever afer.” It is more like up and out and crash, and up and out and crash. If the crown is seriously involved, the recovery from this rollercoaster cycle can take a long time. That is not what we are looking for in AYP. More of a smooth and steady development is preferred. Then going up and out will come on gradually via root to brow practices and be light and easy, and so will the aftermath. In fact, eventually we will not know the difference between being up and out the crown and being down here. It will all become the same whole body illumination and divine flow. Then the intensity will be far greater than the crashing version, but we will not notice the intensity, because the energy will be streaming through us with very little friction. Others will notice more than we do. Achieving smooth and stable purification of the vehicle, the human nervous system, is the key in all of this. If we can do that, then there is no limit to how far we can go. We just have to build up to it gradually.
Keep in mind that “automatic yoga” does not put our safety first. It is up to us to do that. We always have the option to ground our excessive energy flows, when necessary. There are many ways to do this. It is good to become familiar with the means, just like it is good to know where the brake pedal is in our car.
The guru is in you.
Yogani
Thank you!
This immediately rings true. My hesitancy must come from deep down knowing that I shouldn’t start flying before my wings are fully developped.This is my inner guru trying to guide me in the right direction. Which is down; not up.
Yes…I understand about “not beeing stuck on experiences”. I will keep this in my vision all the time from now on.
Thank you, again. I feel weightlifted - and at the same time lovingly advised and grounded in my “playpin” for a while
May all your Nows be Here
Hi All,
While we are talking about inner sounds, I thought I was also going to share that since about 8-9 months there is a constant high-pitched tone in my head, maybe at about 5000 Hz or so. I’m mot aware of it most of the time when in activity, but if I listen it’s always there and sometimes I can even hear it while driving. I haven’t felt attracted to it or thought it has any specific significance, but rather as a bi-product or effect of meditation. The way you describe your sound Katrine, yours might be of a different type since you feel attracted to it. It would be interesting to hear if many have these inner sounds as well, if it’s a common phenomenon associated with meditation.
Hi Katrine,
I had this feeling off and on when I started using a mantra during meditation for the first time when I started with AYP. What really helped here was Yogani’s instructions to not in-tone the mantra in a loud kind of way on the surface of the mind but to pick it up effortlessly on the subtlest levels of the mind closest to inner silence. I find this way it pulls you in to deeper levels.
Maybe this will help it feel less “out of place and superficial” for you? Also you might want to try doing one of the longer mantra enhancements found further along in the main AYP lessons.
All the best,
Anthem