Both the browser and operating system apparently need to be fairly recent to be able to read RSS feeds directly. I can not read them with Windows 98 second ed. and Internet Explorer 5.0, or with Windows 2000 and Internet Explorer 5.0 or Netscape 7.0.
<html><head><body bgcolor="lemonchiffon"> <script language="vbscript"> dim xmlDoc Set xmlDoc = CreateObject("microsoft.xmldom") xmlDoc.async = false xmlDoc.load("http://www.aypsite.org/forum/rss1.asp") document.write(xmlDoc.documentElement.text) </script></body></html>
its a simple (test)program to decode the data from rss file, copy and save it as ".html" file. if everyone can see the data, then i will enhance it by adding proper interface. RSS feed is good idea from Kirtanman, how far its practical here not sure, needs idea from everyone. Thanx
May be an isssue of operating system (WIN98 
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Or a browser issue ?
L&L
Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang: I was given to understand that a reader download is needed by many for RSS. I have both MSIE and Firefox here, neither is that far out of date (even though the operating system is old), and neither works with RSS. Well, one way to settle it is to see who can see this and who can't: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/rss1.asp What does everyone say? I just don't think we should be putting up a feature that will confuse lots of folks, and not be useful for spreading the word. On another matter, your request for gender identification in the member profile did not go unnoticed. It was deliberately left out from the beginning so no one would feel pressured to reveal more about themselves than they wish. If it were active, the gender question would not be mandatory, but just having it there could send the wrong message, particularly in view of some of the subject matter we are covering here. Keep in mind that many experiences are being shared here that have rarely been revealed in public before, and with very good benefits so far. We do not wish to jade it in any way. Less on exactly who is doing the sharing can be more! Those who want to reveal their gender will find a way ... that has been the philosophy so far, and it seems to work. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." :slight_smile: The guru is in you.
Hi Yogani & All, Initially, I thought this was likely an operating system issue ... ... but that actually appears to not be the case. First, this article may contain the answer: [url] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2005/07/01/rss.html[/url] Second, I understand why, if you're not familiar with RSS, that you'll perceive separate software as being needed (the mention of a "reader" - makes it sound somewhat akin to a PDF reader, or some-such.) However, pragmatically speaking, that isn't the case --- because RSS reading capability has been integrated directly into current browsers (Firefox 2.0 and IE 7 -- and I believe a version or two back, or at least a partial version or two back, for each.) For instance, when I click on the Taobums RSS (or any other RSS) link, Firefox recognizes the RSS feed, and saves it as a Bookmark, and puts an RSS icon in the toolbar. When I click on it, I see links to the five most recent Taobums message threads(the titles). (And I believe that number is flexible - some of my RSS links show five, others ten or fifteeen.) When I click on the link -- I go directly to that message thread. As another example, check out [url]www.dooce.com [/url]-- the ever-increasingly popular exploits of a formerly hard-drinking, currently medicated Salt Lake City housewife with an attitude. Currently one of the most popular sites on the web, which says a lot .... about something. (Primarily Heather Armstrong's wit and writing ability.) She was fired from her former job for blogging, and now makes enough from it to support her family. Clicking on this link will illustrate why: [url] http://www.dooce.com/shop/[/url] (It will not, however, explain exactly why she was flown to New York to be interviewed on CNN, or why she is invited to keynote at industry conferences ... but that is a topic for another day, and/or another forum.) I'm entioning Dooce here, though, per the fact that Heather ("Dooce"), doesn't have an RSS feed for forum posts (per no forum) -- but rather, her blog entries. So, RSS can basically be set up for any content that can be "demarcated" - whether forum posts, AYP Lessons, blog entries if there are ever AYP blogs, and so on. And (finally) -- clicking on the AYP RSS link -- I see the same XML code that everyone else sees (and I'm running XP w/SP2, Firefox 2.0) -- which tells me that the article link at the beginning of this post may contain the answer, after-all. As cool as open-source is (especially the general FREE-ness of it all) - many blog (as with Dooce) or forum (as with Taobums) applications offer RSS feed creation as part of the software. Since Snitz requires kind of a DIY approach, certain technical additions may be more than a one-step process .... but per the link ip above (posted here again for convenience - h[url]ttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2005/07/01/rss.html[/url] - it appears that this one additional step, which looks fairly easy --- may be the needed fix.) Peace & Namaste, Kirtanman
Athma_Shakti,
I saved this code as an HTML file and ran it in IE 5 and Netscape 7, but only the yellow background shows up. And I do have active scripting enabled.
Hi All:
I’m afraid I don’t have a clue what all this RSS talk is about. If we can’t show a simple icon that everyone can point and click for the result, it will not be implemented here. It is as simple as that.
But feel free to use the beta link above.
If at some point it becomes a simple point and click feature for everyone, then let me know. Keep in mind that administrative time available here for setting up and operating this sort of program is zero. So if it is going to be done, someone else has to do it. Right now it looks like a can of worms. 
Sorry, that’s just how it is at this stage of AYP development. It is as much about the offline stuff as the online stuff, and there are only so many hours in the day.
The guru is in you.
hi Weaver
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/rss1.asp
click on the above link
“rss1.asp” page has been moved or removed, thats why the script is unable to read the page.
Yes, when I click on the link above it says that page can not be found.
Hi All:
Our Snitz consultant must have removed it today. I have been away. Would anyone like it back?
The guru is in you.
Hi Yogani
yes it will be helpful to develop the reader.
Hi Yogani,
I clicked on it when it still existed. I use Windows XP and the latest IExplorer. I saw a page, it was full of type which was surrounded by code at the beginning and end of each line of type.
Christi
AthmaShakti: Sorry about that. I’ll see about having it put back.
Christi: That is very telling. Up-to-date XP/IE not seeing it either?
The guru is in you.
I didn’t have a very detailed look at it, just used something available with a small change. IE 7 sees it correctly, now. Looks pretty good.
The new file is http://aypsite.org/forum/rssfeed.asp
Sorry about that… I didn’t have the latest version of IE after all… just updated to IE7 and checked the page… it works great.
Hi Yogani,
Forgive my ignorance, but I assume this is stuff for people who are using a webpage which integrates their emails, news items, and recent forum posts onto one (personalized) webpage. So someone who had one of these pages would have the ability to read RSS feeds anyway (either IE7 or a downloaded RSS reader), and then they could select the AYP forum site as one of the sites to receive RSS feeds (recent unread-by-them postings) from, if it was implemented as an option on the AYPforum server? So wouldn’t this mean that someone not using an integration (sindicate?) webpage would just log onto the ayp forum page and see everything as it is now?
Have I got this right?
Christi
Hi Yogani,
Forgive my ignorance, but I assume this is stuff for people who are using a webpage which integrates their emails, news items, and recent forum posts onto one (personalized) webpage. So someone who had one of these pages would have the ability to read RSS feeds anyway (either IE7 or a downloaded RSS reader), and then they could select the AYP forum site as one of the sites to receive RSS feeds (recent unread-by-them postings) from, if it was implemented as an option on the AYPforum server? So wouldn’t this mean that someone not using an integration (sindicate?) webpage would just log onto the ayp forum page and see everything as it is now?
Have I got this right?
Christi
Hi Christi, I'll take a stab at answering (one of the few things I may know more than Yogani about - temporarily at least -- is RSS :wink: ). I'm not fully sure I completely get your question - but I think you actually have your own answer, per your "works great!" statement about the shiny new AYP RSS Feed, as it appears in IE7. Yes, you can visit the Forum as you always do --- but the RSS feed can make for a very nice convenience! What we see in IE7, as the RSS Feed is exactly why I started this thread, and made the request --- it's like the Forum home page, on steroids! (Probably a terrible analogy, but I'm goin' with it ....) (And this next statement will show everyone how truly lazy I am! :wink: ) I actually had the AYP Forum page set as my Home Page - so I didn't even have to "go" to the Forum -- but I still wanted to be able to see updates, without having to manually click through to review each message thread. And the main reason for this, is that there were message threads I sincerely wanted to follow - but would forget which folder / section they were part of - or, in wanting to following six or seven threads, I would forget a couple of them, and so on. NOW - I just set the AYP RSS Feed as my Home Page (I'm actually switching back to IE from Firefox, per IE's superior RSS display capabilities) ---- and the newest messages come to me -- the 10 most recent messages (the *entire* message - I love it!), links to the folders they're in - it's awesome! Perfect Example: I was doing some email, so out of my browser - and clicked back to the browser -- and staring me in the face was your response to my sleep-related post in the self-pacing section (and thanks; I'll plan to respond soon --- VERY helpful thoughts and info!). If the RSS feed wasn't set up, I'm not sure exactly when I would have remembered to check for responses. So -- this is GREAT! And, by the way ---- did I answer your question? (As in: I am *not* "using a webpage which integrates their emails, news items, and recent forum posts onto one (personalized) webpage" - per what I wrote, above.) Now, someone could potentially do that, sure ---- that's one of the benefits of RSS. They could also (if they have a blog, for instance) - add the AYP RSS Feed to their blog. All this data (the forum posts) is public data already - RSS just makes it a lot more convenient. Peace & Namaste, Kirtanman PS - Major kudos to whoever did the actual RSS set-up - GREAT job! The AYP RSS Feed already has more / better / more informative features than the Taobums feed I used as an example. This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for, when I requested that this feed be set up ---- THANK YOU!! :grin:
“PS” - The two things I’ve found which seem to point to a fix for RSS display in Firefox are:
- The terms “RSS” and “feed” cannot appear in the first 512 bytes of information (a byte is equivalent to a single character of displayed text). This is a known bug in Firefox 2.0 - and seemingly easy to fix (you just move some of the tags / code around a little, within XML parameters).
- Implementing code for CSS (Cascading Style Sheet) effectively eliminates the problem, because it instructs Firefox how to display the feed, rather than making it “guess” - more info here:
http://cephas.net/blog/2006/11/03/rss-processing-instructions-and-firefox-20
& here
http://www.petefreitag.com/item/208.cfm
Hope this helps.
Kirtanman
PPS - Firefox RSS display working now (thanks!)
Some of the “slicker” features - i.e. the number of new messages in a thread, with a link - don’t show up — but the truly important data (recent messages) displays just fine!
By the way: Per the relatively rapid updating, per user activity, of the forum – might it be possible / practical to change the number of recent messages from 10, to (say) 25 or so?
(I’m cool with 10 – but the “10 newest” turns over fairly rapidly – with 25, it would do so proportionately less often, is all.)
Thanks Again!
Peace & Namaste,
Kirtanman
Just to confirm: This http://aypsite.org/forum/rssfeed.asp works with
my Firefox (ver 2.0), the old content (2 days ago) didn’t show up correctly.
Edit: firefox 1.5 does not work 
Thanks Kirtanman,
That answered my question… (I couldn’t work out what my question was either ).
So it works the same as the button already on the forum page that says “active topics” except that it shows content as well as the topic title. And someone could also get the info straight into their newsreader/ email thingy site if they want. If I’ve got it right now, then that’s a definate good thing.
Christi
Hi All:
I hope everyone is aware that there is an “active topics” link at the top of this page that pulls up all new posts (by topic) since the last visit. Any past time period can be selected as well. Using the pink folders on the main page is not a very reliable way of finding new postings. It does not always reflect reality.
As for RSS, I’ll stand by the assertion that any link we place on public AYP pages must work in all browsers that can see the page, either as direct information, or a prompt to download a reader (like our recent addition of flash audio does). Keep in mind that AYP is being viewed on computers all over the world of every operating system and browser type, both new and old. The gig is global and not everyone has the latest whiz-bang browser, or has the ability to get it.
The guru is in you.
enhanced reader is available http://www.geocities.com/athma_shakti/rssread.zip its an html file, unzip the file and open in it. since i can’t paste lots of codes here, so i uploaded in geocities.
still unable to read http://aypsite.org/forum/rssfeed.asp seems some style sheets are missing. reader won’t show the data until this page is available.
if its ok, i will add more enhancements later when iam free.
with Love
Kumar