Hi peeps! This is a cut and paste of part of an email that I sent to Yogani.
Lots of strange things happen during practice, but I follow the AYP line and treat them all as “scenery”. However, a couple of meditations ago, a couple of things happened that at the time I didn’t give much thought to, until last night as I was reading “Kundalini Tantra” by Swami Satyananda Saraswati.
I did the 10 minutes of Spinal Breathing, then moved into the meditation. It seemed to go well in that thoughts were few, mantra like a faint pulse and there were those moments were you get to where there are no thoughts at all until you realise that you have stopped breathing. For some reason I then tried Khechari (just stage 1). Now, it’s not something that I usually do and it didn’t seem to make much difference, so I stopped it. Soon after that, I noticed a lovely clear feeling in my throat, like a very nice cool mint feeling, more like a vapour than a liquid. It lasted long enough for me to think, “Wow, that’s nice. What is it? …better get back to the mantra”. Then my meditation kind of shifted. I felt as if I didn’t exist, that yes the mantra was going on, but I wasn’t doing it, what was I? I tried to explain it to my wife by saying that I felt like I was no-thing rattling around inside a brain. There were no thoughts, but I was there. Everything seemed clear, but I didn’t know who, what or where I was!
So, anyway, after a short while, I moved on to my Samyama, then ended the meditation, and forgot about the scenery.
Of course, I gave all this little thought, but then I read on page 99-100 of “Kundalini Tantra” about Khechari and amrit. I then read what it had to say about the effect of amrit.
“When you sit for meditation the mind is perfectly still, it can not move and you can not think. There is shoonyata, an experience of total nothingness. If you are practicing mantra, you feel that somebody else is practicing and you are only witnessing it. …”
Then it clicked that perhaps the “abortive” Khechari, the “mint liquor” and the odd meditation were all linked.
I have only been practicing AYP for 4-5 months. Is it possible that I actually experienced a drop of amrit? Or was it just another odd bit of scenery?
And the reply:
Hi Echo:
Yes, that is a “taste” of the nectar cycle. If you search for nectar, amrita, soma and related terms in the AYP lessons and forums you will find discussions on it. Here is one I recall doing not long ago: Amrita question - 06. Discussions on AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama - AYP Public Support Forum (check entire topic)
You are wise to let it go and carry on with practices and normal life.
Good things are happening. All the best!
The guru is in you.
and my reply to the reply: 
Hi Yogani
It’s amazing when things happen that you can not discount as fantasy!
All the very best
Hi Guys,
A few years ago I came across a product called Amrit kalash Nectar. Produced by Maharishi Ayeruveda Company which is said to quickly change into Ojas in the stomach… something like that.
Wondering if the association to the amrit nectar that you guys talk about as suggested by the product name really exists.
Thanks,
Emil
Hi Emil,
If I have understood the terminology right, Soma is the stuff produced in the stomach (lower torso) area, amrita is the stuff that drips down from the top of the head into the mouth/ throat, and ojas is the stuff that is secreted from the body, and trickles down outside the physical body. The production of soma is a prerequisite for the production of the other two as they are its transformed form.
Yogani has (I believe) hinted that one of the effects of amaroli is the increased production of soma in the stomach. I don’t know anything about the product you refered to, but if drinking urine helps, then presumably other substances could also. Or maybe it contained someones urine. If it does, it certainly won’t be the first time someone has bottled their wee and sold it. 
Christi
It would be really funny
Paying for someone else’s while one is wasting his own precious urine.
Echo, Great things are happening for you. All the best !
Can you pls give details on the ‘Kundalini Tantra’ book? the book’s full name and Author’s name?
is it good?
thanks !
Hi there,
The book was Kundalini Tantra by Swami Satyananda Saraswati
Here is a link to the book on amazon -
http://www.amazon.com/Kundalini-Tantra-Swami-Satyananda-Saraswati/dp/8185787158/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207571580&sr=1-7
I had purchased this book few months back. have been reading in pieces.
thanks !
Hi Yogani,
I was just wondering… do you think this is what the term “anointed” refers to in the spiritual world. I ask mainly because you mention the word at the end of lesson 51:
"The truth is that we all have equal access to the divine life through our human nervous system. You can choose to be anointed if you are willing to do the work that goes with it – the work of applying the knowledge of human transformation, which is doing spiritual practices every day. " [Yogani]
Hi Yogani,
I was just wondering… do you think this is what the term “anointed” refers to in the spiritual world. I ask mainly because you mention the word at the end of lesson 51:
AYP Lesson 51 - Strange Gurglings in Pranayama
"The truth is that we all have equal access to the divine life through our human nervous system. You can choose to be anointed if you are willing to do the work that goes with it – the work of applying the knowledge of human transformation, which is doing spiritual practices every day. "
Hi Christi:
That is one interpretation, though I think being anointed also means to travel a higher path in active surrender to our chosen ideal, not necessarily tied to being physically anointed from the inside or the outside. When we choose, then we are chosen, or anointed. In time, the ojas comes along with that, being a component of the rise of ecstatic conductivity and radiance. The oil anointing ceremonies found in the religions can be viewed as metaphorical representations of that process.
The guru is in you.
Hi Shanthi,
The information you have posted was quite useful.Where do you get all these information from is something from the books or it is from your experiences.
Thanks,
Hi lakshmi_shegar,
Welcome to the forum.
The words I quoted above are from Yogani’s book Diet, Shatkarmas and Amaroli.
He has posted a few paragraphs from his book here.
That use to happen quite a lot to me as well long time back.
But I had no idea what was happening at that time, but this thread helps me in understanding what was happening,
I recently was reading a book, that explained it as a siddhi that sits in the throat chakra , that can even reverse aging process by controling some form of liquid (amrita??,nectar??).
Hi Arzkiahai,
Yes, I have heard that too. The stuff that stops your body from ageing is the amrita which drips down from bindu chakra on the top back of your head. But it doesn’t stop the ageing process until the throat chakra is fully activated and able to transform this nectar into another substance which then drips down to the navel chakra.
But I cannot confirm any of this from my actual experience, it is just what I read in a book (don’t ask me which one).
Christi
@Christi I was also curious about this. Have you found out in the 17 years that have passed since asking this question?
Hi Chen,
Yes. One thing that has happened in the last 17 years is that we now have AI. This is what ChatGPT says in answer to this question:
In classical Tantra, Kundalini Yoga, and Kriya Yoga, the Bindu Chakra (located at the back/top of the head, near the occiput) is said to secrete a subtle nectar called amṛta (literally “immortality” or “nectar of the gods”).
- Bindu Chakra (or Bindu Visarga) is described as the source of this amrita, a subtle essence that drips downward through the chakras.
- In ordinary people, it is said to burn away in the fire of Manipura (navel chakra), representing the consumption of life energy in digestion and bodily processes — thus leading to aging and mortality.
- In an advanced yogi, however, through practices like Kechari Mudra, Ujjayi Pranayama, and deep meditation, this nectar can be preserved or redirected, preventing its destruction in the solar fire below.
- Symbolically, this preservation leads to rejuvenation, long life, and even immortality (amṛtatva) — but in the spiritual, not necessarily physical, sense.
So, in the esoteric view:
When the amrita flows freely and is consciously preserved (especially through practices that cool and stabilize the throat chakra, Vishuddha), the yogi’s body and mind are said to stay youthful, radiant, and free from decay.
From what I have experienced in the last 17 years, I would say this is correct. The amrita does keep the body youthful, in the sense that it remains full of vital energy. It also keeps the body radiant, although this radiance is happening from the subtle body, from the system of chakras and nadis. And amrita does form a part of the process of coming to recognise our immortal nature. But, this is not the physical body staying alive forever, but rather the perception that we are That which is never born and never dies. Amrita contributes to this process because it dissolves blockages in the subtle nervous system, blockages that keep us identified with things that we are not. So, this is why amrita is sometimes referred to as the “nectar of immortality”.
Hi All,
Thank you Chen for bringing this 2007-08 topic back up. And thank you Tristan for the update all these years later. It is an important subject, the neurobiology behind ecstatic awakening, second only in importance to the cultivation of abiding inner silence (witness) in deep meditation and related practices.
After the publication of the Diet, Shatkarmas & Amaroli book in 2007, and Lessons like 51 and 133, which initially described aspects of Amrita/Nectar and the Nectar Cycle, more lessons on this were offered, particularly Lesson 304 in 2009 which covers the nectar cycle in detail. And several more lessons after that, including tie-ins with Tantra, Vajroli, Mudras & Bandhas, and even parallels with Taoist methods and descriptions on this fundamental neurobiological process behind the ecstatic awakening (kundalini) side of human spiritual transformation, available in everyone.
Here are a few of the lessons on this that came out both before and after this topic discussion, from the Lessons Topic Index:
Nectar (amrita and nectar cycle) - 51, 133, 137, 304, T62, 379, T77
The guru is in you.
PS: On the AI help side, while the public ChatGPT (above) offers a good general overview, the AYP Forum AI provides experiential specifics on how Amrita and the Nectar Cycle fit into the overall AYP system:
Q: What is Amrita?
Forum AI Answer:
Amrita, which means “nectar” and also “immortal”, is a spiritual substance produced in the body during the process of human spiritual transformation.
In yoga, Amrita is primarily associated with the nectar cycle, which involves refined secretions originating in the head and flowing throughout the subtle nervous system.
Origin and Flow (The Nectar Cycle)
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Origin: Amrita is produced in the brain, specifically at the bindu chakra, which is sometimes referred to as the lunar center in yoga. It is also described as an oil or liquid light coming from the crown chakra.
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Path: The fragrant secretions flow down through the nasal pharynx and sinuses, to the roof of the mouth, and then down the throat. It is noted that Amrita is purified at the vissudi (throat) chakra and continues down into the GI (gastrointestinal) tract. This flow recycles subtle essences for refined processing in the GI tract.
Experiences and Effects
Amrita is sometimes referred to as the nectar of the Gods and provides various spiritual and physical effects:
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Taste and Aroma: It can be experienced as a sweet taste at the end of the throat (“madhur”) or a sweet aroma in the nasal passages and mouth. The sweetness is most noticeable in the early stages, often described as an incredible experience, like a drop of nectar from heaven.
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Energy and Sustenance: Amrita increases energy both physically and mentally. It can feel like it can power muscles and stuff like glucose, and when flowing, it energizes the physical body without the heaviness of food. It feels light and renews the body. The presence of Amrita reduces the desire for physical food and can replace hunger.
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Spiritual State: Amrita is intoxicating and brings about a sense of contentment, harmony, and bliss. When it is produced, the practitioner can enter a God-intoxicated state.
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Evolution: The production of amrita evolves from drops of liquid light into streams of liquid light, and eventually becomes more rarefied, dissolving into pure bliss consciousness. The Amrita/nectar cycle is intimately involved in head-to-heart awakening on a biochemical level.
Practices and Related Concepts
The production and reception of Amrita is stimulated by various advanced yoga practices:
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Kechari Mudra: Kechari mudra, a practice involving the tongue, has a strong influence over Amrita’s production and reception.
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Pranayama and Kumbhaka: It is stimulated by spiritual practices, especially pranayama, kumbhaka (suspended breath).
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Bhakti: Spiritual devotion (bhakti) alone can sometimes stimulate the flow of Amrita.
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Neurobiology: Amrita is one of the refined substances associated with the neurobiology of enlightenment. Its presence is considered evidence of natural vajroli, which is the continuous upward absorption of sexual essences.
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Related Substances: Amrita, along with Soma (a substance produced in the GI tract) and Ojas (radiance of spiritual vitality through the outer skin), are key aspects of the Nectar Cycle.
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Purification: The early stage of Amrita production is related to the general purification of the subtle body. Early stage Amrita may even be bitter, emphasizing the need for appropriate prerequisite purification.
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing!
In the book “Siddhas: Masters of Nature” the author talks about how rejuvenation of the physical body follows:
- Purificaiton
- Kundalini activation
- Amrita generation
- Kaya kalpa
In the last stage, he describes the usage of mercury+sulphur, herbs combined with amrita as a practice that turns the physical body into a body of gold. As far as I understand he emphasized that this is a physical immortality practice rather than purely spiritual one.
Was just curious if this was a thing
Lesson 304 is so useful. Thank you for doing this ground work!
You’re probably the strongest case study on this forum having practiced for so many years.
If after 65 years of practice you’ve experienced youthfulness even into old age then even if this doesn’t fully rejuvenate the physical body it’s still useful to know that this technique can help keep the body in excellent shape.