Hi all
Lately there is a change in how I perceive the energy working in my head. I can no longer say that the energy is working in the different chakras… It is as if the Ajna, the crown and the area in the back of my head is one big chakra. They are not separate at all… . This reminds me of how I used to perceive the lower chakras as “distinct, separated areas” – while as now it is all one, glowing spine. The ecstatic conductivity is at times very intense in my neck too. It is obvious that there has been a major block there. Now that it is being cleared, it allows for even more energy upwards. Hence my problems with self-pacing lately. I am wondering…I perceive “lines” to go from the Ajna up my forehead to the fontanel on top of my head (you know, the area in a child that closes by the age of app. one year). Are these nerves? Or energy channels? (Both?)
It is interesting to observe that I can now clearly perceive the activity of the Ajna to also be activity in the crown. Much like I started to perceive the root chakra and the Ajna as one chakra a while back. This activity in the crown is not bothersome or painful. I don’t focus on it, however. I don’t have to – things go on up there of its own accord.
Sometimes during the day (especially now, just a few days prior to my period) however, I will have huge surges of energy going straight up to the crown. It is accompanied with an “ache” in the fork in the middle of the head and…not pressure, but more like “being right under a vacuumer”…a huge “drawing up”. This experience always alerts me. No matter how much I feel like “leaving” through the hole – I instead do a “slight sambahvi” (Just like Jim told me to, in the post “Drunk with ecstacy”). This redirects at least part of the energy to the Ajna. It works. I am still here.
May all your Nows be Here
Hi Katrine,
Thanks for sharing this info…I feel the energies in head also…sort of like a sinusoidial wave…You make me feel so close to home …you wouldn’t believe how happy I am today
Yeah it is progammed to work on its own .I experience the same sort of pressure before a menstrual period also…Actually the healing that goes on in the ashram are stronger…during this time…
Hi Katrine,
Thank you for sharing this. I experience a very similar thing, and I suspect that it’s common. First in the morning the sensations are fairly faint until I have done my practice, then they increase over the day so there is a fairly strong sensation in the ajna and crown and some pulsations as well, even though there are only some occasional light currents in the spine. During spinal breathing I go to the ajna, but when I go that path in the head it seems like it’s impossible not to stimulate the crown as well (which responds almost as strongly as the ajna). Often the whole area seems like one as you describe. It feels like a bulge in the forehead, like a Klingon has, and sometimes I wonder if people notice it, but when I look in the mirror it’s fortunately not visible.
Hi Weaver
Thanks for sharing your part. I wonder…what on earth is a “Klingon has”??
Also…do you feel the energy to be ecstatic?
May all your Nows be Here
Katrine,
Klingons are a race of humanoids in the fictional Star Trek universe.
Look here for more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon
Katrine,
Yes, when there is energy in the lower part of the body and the lower area of the spine, it’s somewhat ecstatic, with some sexual undertones, but so far only a slight amount has started to develop there. The main concentration of energy is in the head which is so far just sensation and pulsations.
I was a little worried about this posting. At first, I thought that it was cutting against Yogani’s dire warnings about going anywhere near the crown in one’s thinking/doing/practicing…i.e. his “leave it alone!” injunction. Then I realized this is actually the (much) later phase stuff Yogani writes about. So Katrine is not “wrong” (insofar as a dopey word like “wrong” can apply to any of this!).
BUT…my reason for concern remain, in terms of those reading along. It’s my suggestion that those who are not in the latter stages of this practice (including me and anyone else who doesn’t have oceans of creamy silence, awakened kundalini, etc), not pick up on this. Please reread Yogani’s injunctions about involving the crown in all this.
Katrine’s chosen to work very fast, and, according to her postings, she’s suffering the classic consequences (pitta overload, energy imbalance, crown discomfort, skin stuff, feeling of over-intoxication). Plus, she came in here at a pretty good level of purification (20 years of meditation) to begin with.
If you’re at her point AND willing to risk consequences, that’s a choice that can be made. The rest of us ought to stay away from the crown. Read the lessons to see a cogent explanation of why premature crown opening is responsibile for the kundalini horror stories one hears.
I’m in a pretty big hurry (and I’m having minor side effects, as well). And my kundalini’s awake (well, receded for the moment, thanks, but I’ll tell it you sent your regards). And my silence is pretty good. And I had decades of practices. And I’m not going NEAR the crown.
Ok, end of warning
Hi Jim,
Your warning about not deliberately going near the crown is very important and well expressed. But it seems that there is not much one can do when the crown gets stimulated indirectly by the regular spinal breathing practice and then starts tingling and pulsating. Do you experience this too?
I don’t think about it. I don’t “go there.” I establish a pathway to ajna, and whatever else happens is out of my control and I don’t think about it (that’s my simpleminded approach, and it’s the ONLY part of my practice where I take Yogani as daddy guru and blindly follow his injunction).
This is a big reason for why we do pranayama…to create a nice established channel from root to ajna, and ajna to root. Crown stuff is incidental. Don’t think about it, focus on it, visualize it. Just stengthen and coax and “burn in” that root to ajna connection and let come what may. Ajna’s the control, and if you play to the control, there’s no danger at the crown.
If you start getting all bubbly at the crown, just do a nice sambavi and reestablish that connection. And trust that the crown is being indirectly nourished. Again, I take that on faith.
Thank you Jim, this is good advice.
Hi Katrine. There is a diagram of the intricate crown to ajna energy lines and etc. with commentary in one of the books in the library at www.yoganiketan.net. I think it may be in the first volume of the Pranab Gita, but I’m not sure. The books in the library are on Adobe. For some frustrating reason when I try to open one today to see which book it is in my computer freezes. There’s lots of good reading there, especially for higher level experiences like what you appear to be having. Have fun, Love alan
Hi Jim
You wrote:
I am sorry if I have created confusion. This is the last thing I want! If you can misunderstand my post, then so can anyone else - I take that to heart
So. First of all; thank you for responding the way you do.
Let me clarify my post:
You wrote:
Actually - I have not chosen to work fast; no more than I chose to have cancer 10 years ago. The consequences I suffer is not my “doing”. It is important you understand this, Jim. What I am faced with, is a strong Kundalini that seems to have its own will. I self-pace the best way I can.
As for the crown:
You wrote:
I don’t think about either. I don’t “go there” either. I also establish a pathway to Ajna. And yes - whatever else happens is out of my control and I don’t think about it. However - I see what I see. Thinking and seeing are two different things. I cannot help what I see. I cannot “close an eye that does not have an eyelid”. I have tried to force control - to “not look”. It gets worse.
It is also a fact that stopping meditation all together (when I
self pace I do 5 min twice a day - with 2 min of Pranayama) makes the surges to the crown happen more often. It seems that a tiny bit of Pranayama, and a little bit of meditation is necessary in order for me to not crash. I would be thankful if Yogani would say something about this…
You wrote:
I do to. This is exactly my approach. Yet - our experiences differ.
Truthfully - I have never evaluated “where my point is”. I have no idea of being “advanced”. I find myself in a constant “buzz” - and I do my best to get through it. According to AYP - this can happen.
To sum up:
I don’t do crown work. I go the slowest I can. This post was not at all ment as “how to experiement with the crown”. I can see how it could look that way, though, and I am very sorry for the confusion I created.
Thanks to Jim; I hope it is now clarified.
Got to go…
May all your Nows be Here
Shanti, Weaver and Alan
Thank you
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Hello Nsantoo
I am happy for you
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Dear Katrine; hoping all is going well with you.
I found the diagram I was refering to at the above mentioned site. It is in the Pranab Gita volume 2, the translation is under progress. Love to you, alan
Hi Katrine:
Clearly, something in you wants to move on, and your job has become to manage it for comfort and safety. If I understand correctly, your illness 10 years ago was an opening where it all took off. Life crises are prominent causes of spiritual progress. Indeed, that is what they can be for, if we open and let them. It seems you are finding a balance in it, and if the light practices are helping, then that is all the proof you need. Self-pacing it you are…
Obviously, we can’t go around struggling to ignore our experiences. On the other hand, we can favor balancing practices. I suggest if the energy is going too fast, then that is a good time to “carry water and chop wood” – in addition to the light sitting practices, getting involved in the everyday things that can help ground us. I think you are. These can vary from digging holes in the garden to engaging fully in service for the benefit of others. The divine energy knows what it needs to be fulfilled at any given time. We are but a channel for that … self-pacing evolves to become accommodating the expression of the divine flow through us in every moment.
As for whether you are “trying” to do all this or not. Well, you remind me of our middle son, who, when little (he’s 29 now), we might catch with chocolate all over his face and find the lid off the chocolate cookie jar in the kitchen. His response to an inquiry on that? “I didn’t do it!”
The truth of the matter is that if we chase spiritual transformation long enough (lifetimes!), we will wake up one lifetime and find it chasing us.
We didn’t do it! But the chocolate never lies, you know. Ask John Wilder. He’ll tell you. It is cause and effect … enjoy the ride!
The guru is in you.
Hi Alan
Thanks!
Love to you too
May all your Nows be Here
Hi Yogani
laughing
Yogani…
You know…I think he really ment it. Your son.
still laughing
Oh well.
I guess I will have to surrender to the fact that at some point…“superconsciously”…or “unconsciously”; I do want it.
As I also must have brought the cancer along. (Yes…this was the start of it all).
The fact remains, however: I do the best I can.
This whole setting coincides with another big issue in my life. I cannot anounce it here because it involves other people. But I made a resolution today. I understood something. Really understood it. My resolution was to integrate the understanding. This is the last block. There is only one way to go: Through it. In depth and direction.
Yogani…
Thank you
May all your Nows be Here
One more thing:
I just did.
He did tell me.
And not for the first time…
May all your Nows be Here
Katrine,
My postings weren’t speaking to you, but to curious onlookers (and all of us are curious here) who might choose to start moving in these directions. There is a very VERY fine line (perhaps no line at all) between intentional and automatic processes (per Yogani’s cookie jar story).
As for not being able to help it, you have more than once started discusssions asking for suggestions for slowing down. I’ve detected a certain amount of ambivalence…haven’t been entirely sure you truly wanted to slow down. I may be wrong on that. And maybe you shouldn’t slow down. Only you and your inner guru know for sure! But the rest of us need to not go near crown. Not think about it. Not subconsciously launch, on the basis of your reports, what might be taken for automatic processes. That’s my concern. And someone had to play the part of the loyal opposition here, to make sure people understood the danger.
If you are concerned and truly want to pull back, I’ve given my best advice already in a couple of threads with you. If I think of anything else, I’ll chime in. I wish you the best!